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I don't doubt any of you guys! After hitting the trails last night on my GT I have to wonder how many have really ridden both suspensions. I am totally amazed and thrilled with this mono shock 121 suspension. I was so excited last night when I got home! I had that warm and fuzzy feeling! You really can't appreciate this skid until you get in the twisties of the trails. It is just awesome!!!!
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I talked to a dealer today that seems to think the best deal is an Apex ER. He said that you get all the features of an RTX except the air shocks, which he actually considered a good thing as a result of the maintenance schedule with those things. The Attak offers a better ride because of the longer track. Other than that all three models are the same.
Again, this is according to a dealer.
Again, this is according to a dealer.
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I like the fact I can raise or lower ride height with the floats. Youve got to let a bunch of air out of them before they'll bottom out. Ive tried to bottom them and it takes a hell of a whallop to do it even with 55 lbs in them.
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I don't buy this thing about a 136 being a better rider. Don't give me the whole bridging moguls argument either, that's just BS. More traction, yes. Better ride? Only on the Warrior vs. pre mono RX-1's and that was simply because the PA skid worked better at 136 than at 121.
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Go ride the 2 back to back :ORCQCRider said:I don't buy this thing about a 136 being a better rider. Don't give me the whole bridging moguls argument either, that's just BS. More traction, yes. Better ride? Only on the Warrior vs. pre mono RX-1's and that was simply because the PA skid worked better at 136 than at 121.
Wanna talk about BS, your comparing the 136 pro action to the 121 pro action is what's BS. The 136 works better because it's longer, period.
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I hope to get the opportunity to ride an ATTAK because I do want to compare them for my own satisfaction. But a little short ride will not tell me much. I would have to ride it a lot before I would be able to discern the finer points of each skid.

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\MightyWarrior said:Go ride the 2 back to back :ORCQCRider said:I don't buy this thing about a 136 being a better rider. Don't give me the whole bridging moguls argument either, that's just BS. More traction, yes. Better ride? Only on the Warrior vs. pre mono RX-1's and that was simply because the PA skid worked better at 136 than at 121.
Wanna talk about BS, your comparing the 136 pro action to the 121 pro action is what's BS. The 136 works better because it's longer, period.
MW you couldnt have said it better since I owned them both at the same time. Attak is the better ride.
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I have no doubt that both the GT & Attak with the mono shock ride better than any skid Yamaha has ever put out......period.
The only reason that I chose the Attak is because I was looking for the most comfort I could find.....along with performance. I remember how the old 121 skids worked........so I did not want to take a chance on another 121 when there was 136 available. I wanted to give my self the best chance at getting the softest ride with the least amount of "dialing in".
History shows that a longer skid gives a "softer" or "better" ride.......not taking anything away from the GT Mono....I'm sure it's just as plush.....but people have always said that longer skids give a better ride no matter if it was Cat, Pol, Doo.......didn't matter.....anyone that drove a 121 and then jumped on a 2 up sled always chubbed over the smooth ride.
My 2 cents........Now get out and RIDE!!
The only reason that I chose the Attak is because I was looking for the most comfort I could find.....along with performance. I remember how the old 121 skids worked........so I did not want to take a chance on another 121 when there was 136 available. I wanted to give my self the best chance at getting the softest ride with the least amount of "dialing in".
History shows that a longer skid gives a "softer" or "better" ride.......not taking anything away from the GT Mono....I'm sure it's just as plush.....but people have always said that longer skids give a better ride no matter if it was Cat, Pol, Doo.......didn't matter.....anyone that drove a 121 and then jumped on a 2 up sled always chubbed over the smooth ride.
My 2 cents........Now get out and RIDE!!

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I rode an RTX today down a rough trail for about 5 miles...my first ride on the new chassis. Very, very impressive. Instead of getting more and more aggervated and bracing for bumps as I do with my RX, I just kept going over them faster and faster. Never once was jostled or bucked around, as the RX does. Bottomed out once, and that with the RA in the soft position. Seating position very comfortable. The handling, even with the standard carbides, was awesome too. The front end just dug into the corners and carved them up.
What a great ride.
What a great ride.

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Less fishtailing in loose granular snow =better ride more track keeps it in-line= more stable and it will bridge bumps better its true . I also think the longer skid keeps the front end down better as it acts like a wheely bar effect on the sled. IMOQCRider said:I don't buy this thing about a 136 being a better rider. Don't give me the whole bridging moguls argument either, that's just BS. More traction, yes. Better ride? Only on the Warrior vs. pre mono RX-1's and that was simply because the PA skid worked better at 136 than at 121.
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That is what steered me to the attak over my first choice apexgt,as i had an opertunity to test both back to back rides in same conditions same day,but now after having the attak with fox floats and riding my boys rtx when they both were brand new w/shitty stock carbides,i did notice some push w/the attak and some inside ski lift w/the rtx take your pick between the two of them they are different,but both differences are way better than what the compition has..Yama-Crazy said:Less fishtailing in loose granular snow =better ride more track keeps it in-line= more stable and it will bridge bumps better its true . I also think the longer skid keeps the front end down better as it acts like a wheely bar effect on the sled. IMOQCRider said:I don't buy this thing about a 136 being a better rider. Don't give me the whole bridging moguls argument either, that's just BS. More traction, yes. Better ride? Only on the Warrior vs. pre mono RX-1's and that was simply because the PA skid worked better at 136 than at 121.

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You can get rid of the push with some better carbides on the Attack ...you need to compensate...both sleds come with the same cheap carbides so the Attack will push alittle....but put a good 1/2 rod and 6"-8" carbide and you will see a huge change in push try some Bergstrom tripples maybe?mnmsnowbeast said:That is what steered me to the attak over my first choice apexgt,as i had an opertunity to test both back to back rides in same conditions same day,but now after having the attak with fox floats and riding my boys rtx when they both were brand new w/shitty stock carbides,i did notice some push w/the attak and some inside ski lift w/the rtx take your pick between the two of them they are different,but both differences are way better than what the compition has..Yama-Crazy said:Less fishtailing in loose granular snow =better ride more track keeps it in-line= more stable and it will bridge bumps better its true . I also think the longer skid keeps the front end down better as it acts like a wheely bar effect on the sled. IMOQCRider said:I don't buy this thing about a 136 being a better rider. Don't give me the whole bridging moguls argument either, that's just BS. More traction, yes. Better ride? Only on the Warrior vs. pre mono RX-1's and that was simply because the PA skid worked better at 136 than at 121.


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[quotI don't buy this thing about a 136 being a better rider. Don't give me the whole bridging moguls argument either, that's just BS. More traction, yes. Better ride? Only on the Warrior vs. pre mono RX-1's and that was simply because the PA skid worked better at 136 than at 121.e]
We have many engineer and mechanically inclined types on this site who could explain it mathematically and likely will. BUt to think longer wheel base, different lever arm lengths with in the suspension will not improve ride is ignoring the physicis, also the experience with other motorized vehicle, cars, trucks, cycles etc all believe length of wheel base is directly related to quality of ride.
My 2 cents
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We have many engineer and mechanically inclined types on this site who could explain it mathematically and likely will. BUt to think longer wheel base, different lever arm lengths with in the suspension will not improve ride is ignoring the physicis, also the experience with other motorized vehicle, cars, trucks, cycles etc all believe length of wheel base is directly related to quality of ride.
My 2 cents
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I went with RTX after a horrible 3 seasons on a RX1 , couldnt stand the ploughing and tippiness....HUGE difference, mind you still a bit tippy but no more plowing...amazing suspension...actually lands softly when jumping.....dont think the ATTACK can handle the twisties like a RTX...just my opinion...
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Hey, I'm not putting down anybody's sled either. The traction and floating benefits of the long track are obvious, I'm just saying that given the same shocks and springs I just don't believe that one will be any better than the other for ride quality.
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