Best runners for Simmons skis

[Bert Corrigan]

I've just put a set of Simmons on my Attak. They are great in snow but suck on ice. The 60 degree carbides that come with the skis are worthless on icey corners. Does anyone know the best runner for Simmons skis for someone who is a fairly agressive trail rider? Like I said, they are great on hard packed snow, but get into an icey corner and you better know how to handle a sled or your dead!!

For now I'm going back to my stock skis with Woodies Duelies. They suck as well, but at least they carve the ice in the corners.

Thanks for any suggestions on the best runner set up for Simmons. If there is such a thing. [/b]

 

[Swiss Sledder]

Put on a set of 6" Bergstrom Triple Points on the inside carbides. You can leave the outside carbides as is. The triple points grab on snow, ice, asphalt, etc.

 

[bgbytoys]

I've just put a set of Simmons on my Attak. They are great in snow but suck on ice. The 60 degree carbides that come with the skis are worthless on icey corners. Does anyone know the best runner for Simmons skis for someone who is a fairly agressive trail rider? Like I said, they are great on hard packed snow, but get into an icey corner and you better know how to handle a sled or your dead!!

For now I'm going back to my stock skis with Woodies Duelies. They suck as well, but at least they carve the ice in the corners.

Thanks for any suggestions on the best runner set up for Simmons. If there is such a thing. [/b]

you want agressive steering stud boy makes shaper bars for them. you will need some popeye arms on the hardpack though.. you might want to adjust the transfer rod for more ski pressure first. also simmons comes with around 75 not 60 degree carbide.

 

[4Fighter]

I've just put a set of Simmons on my Attak. They are great in snow but suck on ice. The 60 degree carbides that come with the skis are worthless on icey corners. Does anyone know the best runner for Simmons skis for someone who is a fairly agressive trail rider? Like I said, they are great on hard packed snow, but get into an icey corner and you better know how to handle a sled or your dead!!

For now I'm going back to my stock skis with Woodies Duelies. They suck as well, but at least they carve the ice in the corners.

Thanks for any suggestions on the best runner set up for Simmons. If there is such a thing. [/b]

you want agressive steering stud boy makes shaper bars for them. you will need some popeye arms on the hardpack though.. you might want to adjust the transfer rod for more ski pressure first. also simmons comes with around 75 not 60 degree carbide.

Don't bother with those. Better have a vice and a hammer handy after a long, hard day of riding.

Bergstrom TP's all the way!

 

[Blue Me]

I've just put a set of Simmons on my Attak. They are great in snow but suck on ice. The 60 degree carbides that come with the skis are worthless on icey corners. Does anyone know the best runner for Simmons skis for someone who is a fairly agressive trail rider? Like I said, they are great on hard packed snow, but get into an icey corner and you better know how to handle a sled or your dead!!

For now I'm going back to my stock skis with Woodies Duelies. They suck as well, but at least they carve the ice in the corners.

Thanks for any suggestions on the best runner set up for Simmons. If there is such a thing. [/b]

you want agressive steering stud boy makes shaper bars for them. you will need some popeye arms on the hardpack though.. you might want to adjust the transfer rod for more ski pressure first. also simmons comes with around 75 not 60 degree carbide.

Don't bother with those. Better have a vice and a hammer handy after a long, hard day of riding.

Bergstrom TP's all the way!

The reason 4fighter knows this fact is that the Shaper Bars ALL 4 of them bent in half like the letter V. The lack of steel they have coupled with only 2 studs holding them makes them bend like rubber when planted hard into a corner or even a small rock. I use the NEW Simmons wearbars. They have a progressive rise which helps from having to shim the ski. I won't go back to anything else. I will try Bergstrom's triples next time but these wearbars will last 2-3 seasons. Just change the outside ones to the inside when you see wear. TRUST ME I have been using Simmons Skis since 2000. I tested the new bars for Val Simmons before they ever came out. I should have never tried the Sahper bars what a mistake. Sorry Val!!!

 

[Bert Corrigan]

Thank for the berstrom info

Thanks guys for responding. It looks like Bergstrom Triple Points. Swiss Sledder reccommends 6" on the inside and leaving the outside as is. Is this the way most of you guys are setting up?

 

[watersuper]

I run 8 inch tripple points on the inside and 4 inch on the outside. The outside runners don't help much in turning.

 

[Tork]

With simmons, I just get em from their dealer Sport Shack in SD

like $25 ea

 

[Swiss Sledder]

Re: Thank for the berstrom info

Thanks guys for responding. It looks like Bergstrom Triple Points. Swiss Sledder reccommends 6" on the inside and leaving the outside as is. Is this the way most of you guys are setting up?

I no longer run Simmons, but when I was, my experience was that spending the extra money on the outside carbide was not necessary because I couldn't tell a difference in performance. I tried 6" and 4" carbides on the outside, and it was about the same. The key on the Simmons ski is the inside carbide because this is what bites in the corners. So I always bought a performance carbide for the inside ski like a Triple Point and used whatever was available and cheap on the outside carbide. Just my experience.

 

[Bert Corrigan]

Re Swiss Sledder

Thanks Swiss Sledder.

You've always given good positve feedback.

Now that your not running Simmons do you mind sharing what ski your running now and how they are set up?

Thanks Again,

Bert

 

[Swiss Sledder]

I'm running stock ski, shimmed, with 6" Bergstrom Triple Points. It pushes more than I would like in loose snow, but the steering effort is really light. I was 95% happy with this setup and recognise that some people require more bite so this is by no means a solution for everyone. I am going to try some C&A Razors that I picked up used and give them a try.

The Simmons ski is good and perfect for the RX platform as it increases the ski width thereby reducing the tippy feeling. Simmons do require more steering effort than stock ski, so I decided to stay with the stock ski last season.