Convert to Yamaha, looking for a Nytro!! Gran Marais II

[NFLD-Nytro]

My brother is a certified BRP mechanic. The engines last approximately 140 to 160 hours. Luckily they are easy to remove and cheap to rebuild (compared to a 4 stroke). I'd almost rather do an engine every 2nd season than be constantly wrenching on a machine (speaking from my own experience here). I spend 8-10 hours a week tightening/straightening/mending/welding/greasing/checking my Phazer. Its a blast to ride but what a PITA. I actually rode 2 back to back days without repairing it, although I did blow a rear shock and bent the front subframe slightly (I have 8 hours set aside today for repairs, haha). Fit and finish is awesome though and the engine should last awhile. I will probably keep the Phazer for 1 more season (because I have a bambino on the way) but after that its Cat or Doo all the way, unless Yamaha pulls something major out of its hat. These machines just don't have what it takes for off-trail abuse unless you are willing to spend some serious coin and time (and gym time) to make them what they should be. On groomed trail (which is probably 80% of the market) they can't be beat but I'll say it again and again, if you are into out of bounds riding Yamahas are just too heavy and underpowered (not to mention the odd handling characteristics) to be competitive with 2 strokes. I love my Yamaha and would love to stay with this brand but for the riding that I do, there is no machine in the lineup that can deliver.

LOL, I should load up my GPS tracks. If there's anything my nytro does good it's play off-trail.

8-10 hours of wrenching?? You gotta be kidding me...Sounds to me like if he squeezed his machine he would get lemonade!!! It's not mentioned if it was bought 2nd hand or new but sounds to me like it was used.. I'd flog it. My XTX loves the pow and off trail it's a totally different ride and for the better. After 2200 kms I've probably spent 8 hours total of wrenching that's on hyfax and spacer in the gear case (with beers incl) and all my little mods in my signature.

Same here. 10,000kms, and I come home from a hard ride, turn off the key, and don't look at it until I'm putting gas in it before the next ride. The wrench I do is mostly for something to do, like installing a new track, putting on a sleigh hitch, or changing mufflers. I've never owned such a low maintenance machine.

 

[Ruckus]

This week it was a broken H arm in the rear skid, split muffler and a slightly bent front subframe. I guess its to be expected running with machines that have double the HP and weigh 50 lbs less. And BTW, my machine is not a lemon. All I've ever lost was the front subframe, 2 A arms, all the ball joints and tie rods and bushings, both spindles, both rails, 3 H arms, 1 rear shock, and the motor. Other than that she's bulletproof.

 

[RW06GT]

This week it was a broken H arm in the rear skid, split muffler and a slightly bent front subframe. I guess its to be expected running with machines that have double the HP and weigh 50 lbs less. And BTW, my machine is not a lemon. All I've ever lost was the front subframe, 2 A arms, all the ball joints and tie rods and bushings, both spindles, both rails, 3 H arms, 1 rear shock, and the motor. Other than that she's bulletproof.

Why are you talking about a phazer in a nytro thread? Not really comparable machines IMO.

 

[natedogg3]

This week it was a broken H arm in the rear skid, split muffler and a slightly bent front subframe. I guess its to be expected running with machines that have double the HP and weigh 50 lbs less. And BTW, my machine is not a lemon. All I've ever lost was the front subframe, 2 A arms, all the ball joints and tie rods and bushings, both spindles, both rails, 3 H arms, 1 rear shock, and the motor. Other than that she's bulletproof.

Why are you talking about a phazer in a nytro thread? Not really comparable machines IMO.

rite!! back to nytros!! I picked up an 09 XTX yesterday. 1950 miles and this thing is SWEET!

cant wait to ride it. Its going to be a loooong summer!

 

[rrxx-1]

This week it was a broken H arm in the rear skid, split muffler and a slightly bent front subframe. I guess its to be expected running with machines that have double the HP and weigh 50 lbs less. And BTW, my machine is not a lemon. All I've ever lost was the front subframe, 2 A arms, all the ball joints and tie rods and bushings, both spindles, both rails, 3 H arms, 1 rear shock, and the motor. Other than that she's bulletproof.

Why are you talking about a phazer in a nytro thread? Not really comparable machines IMO.

rite!! back to nytros!! I picked up an 09 XTX yesterday. 1950 miles and this thing is SWEET!

cant wait to ride it. Its going to be a loooong summer!

I know how you feel. I few years back, I picked up my 08 Nytro in the spring, and watched it sit there all summer, couldn't wait for the snow, so in the fall I buzzed around the yard some, in the grass..........

 

[canoehead]

This week it was a broken H arm in the rear skid, split muffler and a slightly bent front subframe. I guess its to be expected running with machines that have double the HP and weigh 50 lbs less. And BTW, my machine is not a lemon. All I've ever lost was the front subframe, 2 A arms, all the ball joints and tie rods and bushings, both spindles, both rails, 3 H arms, 1 rear shock, and the motor. Other than that she's bulletproof.

Why are you talking about a phazer in a nytro thread? Not really comparable machines IMO.

rite!! back to nytros!! I picked up an 09 XTX yesterday. 1950 miles and this thing is SWEET!

cant wait to ride it. Its going to be a loooong summer!

Right on Nate!! ...Bring your XTX out to Alberta we still have 3 feet of snow and we're expecting some more, lol!!

 

[NFLD-Nytro]

This week it was a broken H arm in the rear skid, split muffler and a slightly bent front subframe. I guess its to be expected running with machines that have double the HP and weigh 50 lbs less. And BTW, my machine is not a lemon. All I've ever lost was the front subframe, 2 A arms, all the ball joints and tie rods and bushings, both spindles, both rails, 3 H arms, 1 rear shock, and the motor. Other than that she's bulletproof.

Why are you talking about a phazer in a nytro thread? Not really comparable machines IMO.

Especially if you're talking about Yamaha's being underpowered.

On a side note, after all my talk about never needing to wrench on the Nytro, I spent today spinning wrenches instead of riding. Went out this morning planning to so some suspension adjustments and noticed my limiter straps broken off. Between pulling everything apart, driving around trying to find something to use as limiter straps, and putting everything back together, my day is shot.

 

[Ruckus]

This week it was a broken H arm in the rear skid, split muffler and a slightly bent front subframe. I guess its to be expected running with machines that have double the HP and weigh 50 lbs less. And BTW, my machine is not a lemon. All I've ever lost was the front subframe, 2 A arms, all the ball joints and tie rods and bushings, both spindles, both rails, 3 H arms, 1 rear shock, and the motor. Other than that she's bulletproof.

Why are you talking about a phazer in a nytro thread? Not really comparable machines IMO.

You are right of course - completely different. I would expect Nytros to be much better in quality. I get out riding 60 or 70 times a year so I guess you can't expect anything to stand up to that.

 

[spike337]

Where are you from natedogg? Still a couple days left in Northern Wi that is good enough for a 'shake down' ride.
Congrats on your new sled.
Mike.

 

[RW06GT]

Especially if you're talking about Yamaha's being underpowered.

On a side note, after all my talk about never needing to wrench on the Nytro, I spent today spinning wrenches instead of riding. Went out this morning planning to so some suspension adjustments and noticed my limiter straps broken off. Between pulling everything apart, driving around trying to find something to use as limiter straps, and putting everything back together, my day is shot.

Hey Newf. I just made the connection(avy's). Hope everything is going well for you back home. Looks like you've had a good season.

BTW - You are missed by some of the 'wingers over on fs!

 

[NFLD-Nytro]

Especially if you're talking about Yamaha's being underpowered.

On a side note, after all my talk about never needing to wrench on the Nytro, I spent today spinning wrenches instead of riding. Went out this morning planning to so some suspension adjustments and noticed my limiter straps broken off. Between pulling everything apart, driving around trying to find something to use as limiter straps, and putting everything back together, my day is shot.

Hey Newf. I just made the connection(avy's). Hope everything is going well for you back home. Looks like you've had a good season.

BTW - You are missed by some of the 'wingers over on fs!

Hey!
Everything is going really well back home on the rock, thank you very much, and you're right, it's been an awesome season for playing in the snow.

 

[Rockmeister]

Holy Jump off the thread Batman! lol

Hmmm...

Ya should have come up with us Nate!
Rode over 700 miles since Thursday!

WoooHooo!

 

[natedogg3]

Holy Jump off the thread Batman! lol

Hmmm...

Ya should have come up with us Nate!
Rode over 700 miles since Thursday!

WoooHooo!

MAN!! Do you ever stop ridding?? I luv sitting behind my desk at work and getting pics txt to me of nice flat trails!! LOL

must be nice! Hey, i will be in touch soon. going to have to get the yama heater for the new nytro!!

 

[09nytro]

This week it was a broken H arm in the rear skid, split muffler and a slightly bent front subframe. I guess its to be expected running with machines that have double the HP and weigh 50 lbs less. And BTW, my machine is not a lemon. All I've ever lost was the front subframe, 2 A arms, all the ball joints and tie rods and bushings, both spindles, both rails, 3 H arms, 1 rear shock, and the motor. Other than that she's bulletproof.

Why are you talking about a phazer in a nytro thread? Not really comparable machines IMO.

Back in the 90's i rode phazers and i use to brake stuff all the time ...So i ask the yamaha rep. and he said "well that's really made for women" LOL...not sayin the new ones are ..My nytro seems to be holding up very good

 

[Ruckus]

This week it was a broken H arm in the rear skid, split muffler and a slightly bent front subframe. I guess its to be expected running with machines that have double the HP and weigh 50 lbs less. And BTW, my machine is not a lemon. All I've ever lost was the front subframe, 2 A arms, all the ball joints and tie rods and bushings, both spindles, both rails, 3 H arms, 1 rear shock, and the motor. Other than that she's bulletproof.

Why are you talking about a phazer in a nytro thread? Not really comparable machines IMO.

Back in the 90's i rode phazers and i use to brake stuff all the time ...So i ask the yamaha rep. and he said "well that's really made for women" LOL...not sayin the new ones are ..My nytro seems to be holding up very good

I guess the Japanese hate women.