TurboMatt
Pro
skidooboy said:also with side hilling you dont steer the sled the same way, you use counter steering. basicly you turn the skis left to go right. hard to teach, sounds weird but, it is an aquired skill that is a "feeling", you cant really teach it, you have to do it. ski
This right here is the absolute key to doing SHARP powder turns or successful sidehilling on these machines.
For example, lets say you are try to do a sharp left powder turn. At the same time pull the sled left, hit the throttle and turn the haqndlebat/skis right. That sled will lay over like you have never seen before. The same goes for sidehilling. your skis will be turned away from the hill once you have it pulled over.
It sounds weird but after a while it become second nature & it works. You just have to be willing to try it.
KINS
Pro
It sounds as if you were side hilling in powder. I didn't have a problem with powder, but I had one hell of a time on hard pack side hills until I switched to front float shocks.
I found that placing your weight in the right position on the running boards and good use of the throttle makes this sled handle great. When on a flat full of powder, try placing your weight in different areas of your running boards and use various amounts of throttle while you are trying to turn. A bit of practice on the flats may help you out on the side hills later.
I know it can be a bit scary on a side hill when you feel like you will be turning down into a tree and you have to give it throttle.
I found that placing your weight in the right position on the running boards and good use of the throttle makes this sled handle great. When on a flat full of powder, try placing your weight in different areas of your running boards and use various amounts of throttle while you are trying to turn. A bit of practice on the flats may help you out on the side hills later.
I know it can be a bit scary on a side hill when you feel like you will be turning down into a tree and you have to give it throttle.
Tookes
Expert
TurboMatt
Pro
Try this video that we took this last week out in Wyoming. It should give you a pretty good idea of what it should look like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2mdutPtriE
Now for you it should be even easier seeing as you have a MTX.
I had to fight the wide ski stance along w/ simmons gen 2's and only a 144" track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2mdutPtriE
Now for you it should be even easier seeing as you have a MTX.
I had to fight the wide ski stance along w/ simmons gen 2's and only a 144" track.
Someone once explained it to me like the ski is a rudder under the water. You use the rear half of the ski as a rudder in the snow.
08nytromtx
Veteran
Thanks for all the information. I agree that you need the feeling and once you have it everything gets a lot better. Most of you have addressed how to sidehill. I guess it's my fault in the way i explained it but more of my problem is before i hit the line I want. My sled seems to push whichever way it wants depending on the terrain and once in that direction it becomes very hard to change the sled's momentum and get it back on line. I just wondering if taking off the swaybar will allow me to throw around the sled a little bit better and allow me to lean into the hills easier.
Bodacious
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
I struggled for a while as well. You just got to get mean with the heavy beast, counter steer and pull on the Mnt bar. Disc the swaybar, it helps a lot. For me in the UP or in our steeper hills here at home, I'm more comfortable on a XP Renegade, just seems to respond with less effort, at least that is the feeling I get! (JMHO) Has got to be because it's lighter and shorter. "can't believe I just said that at TY "
sledguy1
Newbie
08nytromtx said:sledguy1 said:hey i saw you this weekend up at the yamaha shop, i had the nytro mtx with the green hood. next time you make it up here hit me up and i will take you out and give you some pointers on the sidehillin. i just got mine this weekend but i took to it like a fish to water, even my buddies who ride the new doo 800r's said they thought this sled was easier to pow turn. i think the trick with these tanks is you gotta be hard into the gas to get it to pow turn or sidehill.
So do you live up in that area and ride a lot of the powerlines up there with yours?
yeah i live north of hancock about twenty minutes. i havent had it out on the hills yet but i hope to this weekend. i just got the sled the day before i saw you down there so i havnt had much time on it.
08nytromtx
Veteran
Thats kinda what I noticed riding with the guys i did this last weekend, the one guy with the xp has only had it for less than a month now and less than 4 days riding time on it and it looked effortless...
Bodacious
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
I don't know about "effortless" but everytime I switch with my XP "X" Gade buddy, it does seem like less work and more fun. His is currently in the shop with a water pump seal leak.08nytromtx said:Thats kinda what I noticed riding with the guys i did this last weekend, the one guy with the xp has only had it for less than a month now and less than 4 days riding time on it and it looked effortless...
akstormin
Newbie
I found this video pretty helpful for sidehilling, and some other stuff as well. http://www.sledshot.com/tech_tips.php After you click on the link, use the arrows under the video screen to find the 'sidehilling' edition.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
OneBadWarrior
Expert
Don't gauge your riding on the abilities of others... you'll just end up ticked off. Maybe try to watch their techniques or maybe pull a few pointers from them. As with any balance based activities, practice is the only real answer. Some people take to it easier than others. I am the later of the two but will practice until I get it. I am no where near smooth and can't count the number of dismounts I have made but now I can get it done... first few rides were frustrating but you have to keep at it. Have fun with it and all of a sudden it will click and it will be second nature. The smoothest riders are the ones who look ahead of where they are riding and can react to the terrain as they need to. Keep practicing and you will learn to be a reactive rider. Oh yeah, bring a shovel too Good luck!
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