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They are fun but require some work and maintenance to make them trouble free. If I were you I would do a rear shock revalve and add some taller wheels when you slap on the freeride, like skidoo wheels or excells X wheel. I found Ulmer clutch kit made the engine braking less harsh, a must have. Any ski other than stock would be an upgrade. Ther are alot of steering fixes on this site you should try and are cheap.
 
Exacly how i felt. The ulmer kit helps a lot, something every rider should look into. The push was fixed for me when i got my powender hound skis. they made a world of a difference when it came to flotation.

I will be getting a freeride track this summer as i need more traction, along with yamaheater.

UP bushman's kit for the steeing helped a lot. took most of the play out. I was starting to feel the slop while riding with 3000km's.

I am also very happy with the 09 rtx i ride
 
yamahas said:
Exacly how i felt. The ulmer kit helps a lot, something every rider should look into. The push was fixed for me when i got my powender hound skis. they made a world of a difference when it came to flotation.

I will be getting a freeride track this summer as i need more traction, along with yamaheater.

UP bushman's kit for the steeing helped a lot. took most of the play out. I was starting to feel the slop while riding with 3000km's.

I am also very happy with the 09 rtx i ride
You won't even believe what the freeride does for the machine! Ear to ear grin all day
 
Loosen the center (front skid) spring all the way, put the strap in the center/3rd hole and that should take care of a decent amount of of push AND also allows the front suspension to do some of the work on bumps. If you don't want to upgrade skis then look into ski-savers which effectively add more keel for better loose/soft snow turning performance and they also help with darting.
 
I've had mine maxed out at 86, stock motor/clutching- plenty fast enough and zip thru the woods for this 41 year old ;)!
Trees don't get out of the way quick enough anymore.

I bought one in Sept with most all the kinks worked out already & warranty till 2012, put over 600 miles on so far and like it.
Working on the 2nd set of sliders with Excell's new wheels (see if they help any).

Enjoy the ride :Rockon:
 
I agree wholeheartedly with the above. Every word is true. I've been riding mine for 3 years and it still scares me sh!tless. I have done skis, track, extension, risers, exhaust, all the updates, rollover valve, grab bar, left throttle, tunnel reinforcements, tuning, tuning and more tuning and its just now an acceptable sled that I'm afraid is going to break down at any moment. I've been working out constantly for 6 months just to have the strength to do what is effortless on another type of machine. It rocks in the tight bumpy trails and big jumps but that is it. Most times it is downright scary, especially off camber stuff. The funny thing is it still rides better than a Nytro. One other thing...about the not burning oil...It costs me 45 bucks to change the oil and I do that about as often as my brother burns it in his Rev. I bring the oil to a local garage and they burn my 45 bucks worth of spent synthetic for free heat. I dunno, I love it at times but its not exactly a confidence inspiring sled.
 
porkchop said:
I've had mine maxed out at 86, stock motor/clutching- plenty fast enough and zip thru the woods for this 41 year old ;)!
Trees don't get out of the way quick enough anymore.
:Rockon:

I got 82 on a rail bed Saturday but had to back off for a gate. I had more throttle left.
 
For what little time we got to enjoy our phazer, it rides way better then our F7. We have 500 acres of wide open fields. Never got to hit the trails with it, but all the trails around me are really tight and almost always mogul filled. You guys are scaring me though, really got the phazer for the wife and kids......as I want a nytro.
 
69.6 mph is as fast as mine has gone in 500 miles. My speedometer has been as high as 84 mind you.

I could label a gallon of milk as weighing 500 lbs, but that does not make it true.
 
Tmac you can have just as much if not more fun on your Phazer than anything out there.No sled is perfect for everyone.
 
Hi, I'm Porkchop and I'm "overweight". ok, define overweight- if your 175# (your a kids size then) :tg:

Seriously, yes I'm "overweight" @ 6' 270# but I have no problems controlling the sled. Throw it into a corner, lean and take it.
Rough stuff I don't even stand up, just keep my azz parked on the seat and hit the tops of the bumps- Works good for me, fat people can ride!!!! :moon:

600 miles of great fun on it so far, will be over a 1K easily.
It's been said on here a few times: "either you love it or you hate it"............ to each their own ;)!
 
I love it and I hate it. Theoretically, this can be made into one hell of a sled but we haven't pushed it that far yet. I think if we could lower the sled's center of gravity in the front by an inch or two it would make all the difference in the world. I was thinking a billet aluminum mount that would bolt into the top shock mount and allow for the shock to be mounted to it in a higher position. The whole front end could be dropped by an inch or two. This would camber out the spindles a bit as well. I think one of the Phazer's biggest downfalls is that the engine's rotating mass is too high. If you think about everything that is rotating at the top of the engine and where it lies within the triangle represented by the front suspension geometry, you can see how it becomes a detriment to handling. This is why widening the skis helps with stability. Why not lower the engine's COG instead? There's still plenty of travel and if you are worried of bottoming out, install a belly pan. As it sits the Phazer is difficult to lean over on its side but has a very precarious balance point. Once you reach this you have to be very diligent with your weight and throttle control or it will fall on its side. Same with side hilling. The COG is too tall to pull the sled on its uphill ski, therefore the skis want to follow the fall line (because there are two of them) and the sled turns in the direction you don't want to go and/or tips over. I utilize a left throttle. Sometimes I have one foot on the running board, one way behind me, right hand on the throttle and left on the grab bar. That is a lot of 'body english' to allow me to follow a conventional sled where the rider just pulls on a toe hook and drops their shoulder into the hill. Anyway, that is my analysis of the poor geometry and COG position in the Phazer. I may go at making a new mount and see what happens. If anybody would like to comment or tell me I'm mistaken I'd love to hear your ideas. This could be another step in making this sled better.
 
porkchop said:
Hi, I'm Porkchop and I'm "overweight". ok, define overweight- if your 175# (your a kids size then) :tg:

Seriously, yes I'm "overweight" @ 6' 270# but I have no problems controlling the sled. Throw it into a corner, lean and take it.
Rough stuff I don't even stand up, just keep my azz parked on the seat and hit the tops of the bumps- Works good for me, fat people can ride!!!! :moon:

600 miles of great fun on it so far, will be over a 1K easily.
It's been said on here a few times: "either you love it or you hate it"............ to each their own ;)!

Well If you read it correctly my point is that youll lose weight riding because its hard work.
 
Having played around on an 11' IQ600 shift 136' I really can't say I like it better than my MTX. Does it have POWER, hell ya. Do the hand warmers work better, yes. Does the humbwarmer work better, NOPE. Does it ride better, sure don't seem like it. Is it Quick, 0-60 is the same as my phazer. Does it do 106, NO, 96mph on GPS. Does it like gas, HELL YA, its been averaging 12-13mpg which means he needs to get gas about the same time I do. Still a nice sled though, especially for the price, I actually told him to get it instead Doo 600 ACE which was the same price. Originally he wanted a MTX like mine but all leftover AND new 11' are sold out in the area and the last 11' was priced higher than what he payed for the IQ.
 


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