First warrior ride on snow.

[Dukester]

We rode 262 miles today in the Bayfield area. Trails were un-groomed but great to test the 2 warriors ride and handling. The M10 was easy to dial in due to past experience with the M10. Early in the day I liked the M10 warrior best but after a few adjustment the standard warrior was fantastic. My brother and I kept switching between the two machines all day. Both my brother and I, at the end of the day, liked the stock warrior best. The M10 is plusher but the stock one feels so right.

No ratcheting at all. We logged about 16.5 mpg. The sleds were fantastic in every way. If the others in the group wanted to ride we could have rode another 200 miles. These sled really rock. They make you feel like your always in control even when you know you are exceeding your abilities.

Two young puppies with 600 REVs, that rode with us, tried to pass every chance they had. The only time they could pass is when the trail was so rough that they had to stand up and ride while we rode flat on our butts. When they lead we could ride right on their butts and push them a little. A sled never felt so right.

I am so excitied that I passed on the hot tub to post here on the form.
Dan

 

[welterracer]

THanks for the reply dan!! We appreciate it!! Even thought i wouldnt have passed up on the HOT TUB!! :lol:

My first trip is planned for January3,4,5 in Houghton !!

They are talking snow where i live for tuesday wed, thur but we will see!!

They like to tease us dont they?

 

[Buckeye]

M-10 Warrior

So are you saying you liked the standard suspension better than the M-10? If so why?

 

[vmaxjohn]

Dig it!

The adjustability of the Warrior shocks should be a huge benefit. I think there will be some minds changed about the Proaction skid in general, once some people who are willing to tune them hit the snow.

 

[Mighty]

Excellent report Buddy! Are both Wariors clutched? If not, how did they compare performance wise?

 

[Bob Miller]

Exciting feedback Dan You got me all workedup!!!! LOL How are you going about your breakin? I have my first trip planned for Dec 20 -23 In Quebec, THANKS AGAIN 8)

 

[Dukester]

We started riding today at 6 AM and rode until noon. The snow is marginal so we may not go back out this afternoon. We covered 159 miles. The warriors are awsome plus!! Mileage was the same as yesterday. Poo's got 9 to 10 and the Doo's around 11 to 12. Both used about 1 quart of oil per 150 miles.

After our ride yesterday we spent a lot of time telling lies and BSing. My buddies on the 800Poo with an M10 and the REV 800 are my best friends. We are simular in age and have been riding identical machines, Poo's mainly, for years and years until now. This is what they have to say about the warriors. (un-edited)

Polaris Al: We didn't get to ride it as much as what we would of liked but it is an impressive machine no doubt. We never really raced on snow but it pulled better than mine out of the corners and in straight aways. The ride was as good as my Polaris and handled better. To bad it is a Yamaha. Impressive motor.

REV Jim: Ride is very good. The motor I would kill for. Too bad it is red. If it said Ski Doo I would definetly consider buing one. It feels much faster than my Rev out of the corners.

 

[Dukester]

Bob: I am breaking it in as normal for me. Easy on the throttle but constantly vairing speeds for the first tank of gas then bursts of higher speed and then hold a new speed for the second tank. Then anything goes except limited time at full throttle.

Buckeye: I am a M10 fan. The main problems with the M10, as I see it are: They sit so high and then drop about 3 inches when you sit on. This is then like sitting in it. This makes it a little tippy. This requires more body english in the corners. The rebound time over the bumps limit the speed you can go over bumps and have the supension follow, therefore you limit your self as to how soft you can set it for a range of conditions. The front shock takes a real pounding and requires reuilding ever 1500 miles or so if you want to control bump rebound.

Mighty: The warrior with the stock suspension has a stage two clutch kit. It definely is faster. The main advantage is it responds to throttle position much quicker. It feels much faster when you hit it comming out of the corners. With the traction and clutching, you will be impressed no doubt. The responce is unreal. Remember silver and red is a chick magnet. :wink:

 

[Bob Miller]

Hey Dan let us know how the Warriors do in a race against the 800REV and the 800Poo and also how the clutched Warrior does against the stock Warrior.
Keep the feedback coming!!!!!! 8) 8) 8) 8)

 

[Dukester]

Bob: The clutched warrior kicks #*$&@. It is so responsive it really rocks.

The 800 Rev and 800 Poo won't race me. They just say my whole shot and mid range is awsome.

 

[Dukester]

Snomonut: This is how I adjust my suspension:

Prequalification: :wink: I am a trail rider and I like the softest ride possible for the largest range of riding conditions I ride under. A slight bottoming out for the unknown big one is ok. I am not a ditch banger but I always want to have a feeling of control. If the settings are too soft you loose some of the feeling of control. I choose to spend the majority of my ride flat on my butt. I get into a more aggressive position only when I want to play. When the day wears on I especially like to sit back and drive it like it is a car.

In all cases I let the springs support the load and use the shocks to dampen the load variations.

I) I set the FRA to maximum. The FRA adjuster controls the amount of shock travel for a specific amount of spring deflection. We want the shock to dampen the bumps and travel the maximum amount for the range of spring deflection. I then set the clicker adjuster to minimum or near minimum. We will start with a low dampening rate for bumps.

2) I set the weight transfer controls to mid range. I like to leave the limiter straps to the factory settings.

3) I set the skis by lifting the front end to take the weight off the skis and let it back down easy and measure the height, bumper to floor. I then put all my weight on the bumper and adjust the ski springs for 11/2 to 2 inch decrease in this measurement. I lift the weight off the springs to off load the springs between adjustments. If so equipped, I set the shock dampening to mid range.

4) I place a pine board under both skis, with the runners I intend to use. I sit on the sled in my normal riding position. I then adjust the front suspension spring to give me a comfortable feeling or drag when I turn the handle bars. I generally make the wife’s lighter than mine. This gives you an indication of the feeling you get steering the sled on a hard packed trail.

5) I set the rear suspension by lifting the rear of the sled to relieve the spring and set it down easy and measure the distance from the bumper to the floor. I sit on the machine in my normal riding position and I adjust the rear spring to give me a 2 inch decrease in this measurement. Before I get back on the sled again I lift the weight off the spring to off load the spring.

This is my starting point. I ride the sled on the trail and take notes as to how it feels.

I then fine tune the front end to provide good cornering under my style of riding. The corners should be bump free. This is the load carrying adjustment. If the front end squats or rolls too much in these turns set the skis springs slightly stiffer. If the shocks don’t have an adjuster, ski lift in these same corners can be adjusted in the same fashion as for rolling. This is a personal feel type of thing.

If the skis are equipped with a shock rate adjuster you can add additional bump control. If there is too much shock in the handle bars over reasonable size bumps hit straight on, set the shock adjuster lighter. If you have too much downward travel in the front end over these bumps set the shock adjuster heavier. This adjustment controls the dampening effect in response to a bump.

If you made a fairly large amount of adjustment to the front end repeat steps four and five above. If in doubt repeat four and five above.

Now is the time to adjust the rear of skid frame. Note that the load carrying ability of the skid frame was set in steps four and five above. Ride the sled on a trail with bumps of the size you would like too ride over in a some what leisurely manner. Use the clicker adjuster to increase the dampening until you can ride over bumps of the size you think are reasonable. The key is reasonable and with in your speed range with minimal bottoming out. Remember the stiffer you make the clicker adjustment the less travel the suspension will have over a given bump size. Less travel relates to the stiffness of the ride. This adjustment controls the dampening effect in response to a bump.

I hope this helps.

 

[RX-1snow]

Is that clutch kit HH,s ? What is the biggest difference from the stock clutch with respect to engagement , smoothness, pull ,etc.? Is it worth the money ?

 

[welterracer]

Is a ten sled gain in a 1/4mile worth $400

HELL YA!!! Does that answer you question?? :lol:

Yes they are HHs!!

 

[RX-1snow]

Whats the quality like in these weights ? Did you deal with Matt at the speed shop ? Thanks for your quick replies!

 

[welterracer]

If you talk to enough people(like i have) you will find there quality is unmatched !!

Matt is a great guy!! he is the reason i bought my stage 2 kit for my warrior and why i keep going back to him for parts!! Plus i know that if i need help with the kit , he will help me!!