Harsh Nytro engagement

[NFLD-Nytro]

Trust me by the time you get all the parts and then some you got a box full of part way more $$$$ and end up with same out come so getting the kit isn't that bad , bolt on and go play

I've chosen to leave it alone and go play.

 

[Port Snowman]

I realize this is an older topic, but... The "comfort clutch" makes the Nytro so much better IMHO. I can actually back my Nytro gently into a corner in my garage with this clutch. With the stocker, I'd never even attempt to do something like that. I really like how smooth and easy it is to engage the clutch, and how much more enjoyable the sled is this way. When I traded my old RX1 in for the Nytro, I wasn't happy with the grabby clutch, it took some getting used to. This to me is a "must do" mod for Nytros. You don't know what you're missing...

 

[Blue Hornet]

I just ordered 14.5mm rollers for my primary at 38 a piece. On my way home I thought I should have just ordered the schmidt bros kit.

 

[KHEXX]

I realize this is an older topic, but... The "comfort clutch" makes the Nytro so much better IMHO. I can actually back my Nytro gently into a corner in my garage with this clutch. With the stocker, I'd never even attempt to do something like that. I really like how smooth and easy it is to engage the clutch, and how much more enjoyable the sled is this way. When I traded my old RX1 in for the Nytro, I wasn't happy with the grabby clutch, it took some getting used to. This to me is a "must do" mod for Nytros. You don't know what you're missing...

I could not agree with you guys more!!! No more herky jerkies!!!! The midrange pulls ridiculously as well. Couldnt ask for more!!! Chris is a great guy to work with...

 

[vogelm1]

Interesting info guys... I'd like this clutch set up for creeping around off trail/starting off in deep snow, rather than having to feather the throttle to keep from trenching in immediately. How is the bottom end when you really punch it? I suppose it's tough to have your cake and eat it too, but I don't want to give up the massive bottom end when you punch it on the trail.

 

[Port Snowman]

Interesting info guys... I'd like this clutch set up for creeping around off trail/starting off in deep snow, rather than having to feather the throttle to keep from trenching in immediately. How is the bottom end when you really punch it? I suppose it's tough to have your cake and eat it too, but I don't want to give up the massive bottom end when you punch it on the trail.

Unless you have a studded track, you have more than enough low end torque to turn the track over. I'm a drag racer (as in cars) and sometimes "less is more" when you take off from a dig if you are not on drag slicks. Studded track=drag slicks. You can rev it up and let it fly. But with no studs, you'll still turn the track over (slip) I see no downside to the comfort clutch. As far as trails, that's what's GREAT about this clutch. You can work the throttle gently and not have to do that annoying "rev/let off rev/let off thing. We have areas here where you ride in the trees on the trails with REALLY tight turns, the stock clutch is not your friend back there. Honestly, even if I'm giving up a little "hit" at launch, the enjoyment factor of my sled is off the scale now and I'd never go back to the stock clutch. No way.

 

[vogelm1]

Interesting info guys... I'd like this clutch set up for creeping around off trail/starting off in deep snow, rather than having to feather the throttle to keep from trenching in immediately. How is the bottom end when you really punch it? I suppose it's tough to have your cake and eat it too, but I don't want to give up the massive bottom end when you punch it on the trail.

Unless you have a studded track, you have more than enough low end torque to turn the track over. I'm a drag racer (as in cars) and sometimes "less is more" when you take off from a dig if you are not on drag slicks. Studded track=drag slicks. You can rev it up and let it fly. But with no studs, you'll still turn the track over (slip) I see no downside to the comfort clutch. As far as trails, that's what's GREAT about this clutch. You can work the throttle gently and not have to do that annoying "rev/let off rev/let off thing. We have areas here where you ride in the trees on the trails with REALLY tight turns, the stock clutch is not your friend back there. Honestly, even if I'm giving up a little "hit" at launch, the enjoyment factor of my sled is off the scale now and I'd never go back to the stock clutch. No way.

Excellent - good stuff to know from real world experience. I may have to give that one a try then. Thanks!

 

[kurtasaurus80]

I installed a Schmidt Bros clutch kit and it works excellent, sled runs and performs great. I love the low engagment especially in reverse, it makes it very easy to back up without liting up the track.

I looked at that kit, but there's no way I'm going to spend $250 or a clutch spring, 3 rollers, and a handful of screws. Just couldn't do it.

I agree! The SBR kit is way to much! I put in a Y/P/Y spring with stock weights; works great! It lowered my engagement to 3100...a nice easy start. It has the same return rate as stock, so it pulls like crazy. Save your money; just get a new spring for $25.

 

[Port Snowman]

Whatever people decide as far as price is up to them. I think we all agree that the stock clutch is way too grabby, and lowering the engagement makes the Nytro much more "rider friendly".

 

[canoehead]

Your best bet is to put on some 14.5 rollers, (which is part of the comfort kit) unless your strictly mountain riding. Did that to mine and brought the engagement down to 3200+/- 100. Engages just like silk!

 

[jleinen]

I installed a Schmidt Bros comfort clutch kit this fall and it's the real deal. No more "launching" when I try to load on my trailer.

 

[Port Snowman]

Got to ride for a good two hours today. There's so much torque that without studs my track spins like crazy from a dig if I hammer it. What was awesome though, is that I was in an area where I had to back up and turn around in a tight spot and it was so easy to do with this clutch. I also could stop on steep grades and get going nice and easy, where with the stock clutch it would have been very "dicey" to put it mildly. It also seems like now that there's more miles on it since the install, it's even smoother.
I wasn't anywhere where I could go flat-out and see how top end was, but it would tear right up to 75-80 no problem where there was room to do it. I LOVE this mod!!!

 

[nytro11tom]

What is better smaller rollers or different spring,or should I change both for lower engagement

 

[UP bushman]

You can deal with harsh engagement a couple of ways. Primary spring, rollers or clutch weight. Example stock 2007 Phazer MTX with the herky- jerky from the factory on the engagement. I changed the primary spring and dropped engagement from 4200 rpm to 3500 rpm with smooth take off equivalant to SBR comfort kit. This year I bought Supreme Tools primary clutch arms and put the stock spring back in and now have engagement at 5200 rpm and it is just as smooth on engagement how can this be.

Where you can position the weight added to the arm is huge. On the stock clutch arms with 2 holes you can only weight near the tip. With the Supreme Tool clutch arms I can put weight towards heel which will give smooth engagement and get the weight moving and pull just as hard. Just a side note primary springs can change performance greatly. Example in my testing the stock MTX spring pulled much harder through full shift out than the softer spring did with lower engagement. Whenevr you change a spring you have to always know what effects one will have on another. Spring rate and preload will total spring poundage with both added together.

 

[UP bushman]

Forgot to add it was a real seat of the pants difference.