Heavy steering after changing skis

[Crossfire12]

Curves work great, easy turning and no darting

 

[fxnytrortxkid]

Love my C&a rz on my sidewinder. Had a little push in softer snow still so went to xcs this year, especially with extra power.

What’s this magic 0 effort steering everyone wants? And why use midevil weapons under them to make them work. With correct toe out and spring preloads they will be fine. Idk I ran C&a skis on my nytro to and liked them. An no C&a skis are not all snox race skis, that is the xt, the cc’s is similar but a lot less effort. If you just want less effort but better steering the rz that my 72 year old father prefers on front of his sidewinder and has no problem making 200 mile days or the xpt that we replaced those pos pilot skis on front of my gfs skidoo with would be great choices. Please do not bother with anything but curve or C&a ski or one the other big brands. Manufacturers skis all suck, and snow trackers are the most hideous thing I’ve ever seen bolted to a ski and quite frightening.

Reason snow trackers suck, 1 they are massive steel pieces that bolt to your ski, 2 skis like curve and C&a are actually molded flat so that when loop is installed it pulls them back and acts like a leaf spring over bumps. Now let’s bolt steal plates and angles to the bottom. Dumb.

 

[JMS@Yamaha]

Couple questions: Do you venture off trail with the XTX? Stock 2.00" Track? What made you switch from the Yamaha Mountain Ski?

The Stock Yamaha MTN ski on an XTX SE does a very good job, steering effort can be light depending on suspension and carbide set up while offering good floatation and cornering confidence. If you are looking for a light steering I would stick with a round bar 6" on the MTN ski. ACE will give you more bite but add steering effort.

If you primarily trail ride the Stryke is another option. Steering effort is very manageable and you are able to fine tune your handling with carbides and Ski Shims. Depending on how much of a rush you are in these skis are projected to be available Early January in Canada, USA will be later in January.

I have have run most of the ski options out there: Tuners with multiple Carbides, C&A RZR, C&A ADX, BRP Pilot, Curve, AC 6" Trail, AC Crossover, Yamaha Mountain, Stryke. Staggered Carbides, ACE Bars, Dual Carbides, Shaper Bars, etc... You get the point.

Each ski has its own unique character or handling traits. Some better then others.

If you have the arms to turn the C&A skis, and don't mind the effort they bite hard in the corner. Cornering confidence is very high. For me I always found there was too much steering effort for my liking. An ACE bar on a C&A is also going to contribute to your hard steering. Typically a round bar or staggered set up will offer easier steering then a square profile bar.

For those looking into the Stryke, Kit Part Numbers attached. Another note on the Stryke Ski kit is the pricing is VERY competitive.

-Jaret

 

[Yamajon1]

Hey guys. My tuners are about ready for Skaggs and probably retirement.Think I may just get cat skis. Can I use the stock rubber or do I need the ones for cat?

You need the Cat rubbers, and get the bushings for the Cat ski’s the tuner bushings will not transfer

 

[zxtyler]

Thant about waiting for the stryke but I hear feb.17 and it looks similar to cat.

 

[zxtyler]

Thought . Stupid spell check!

 

[SideHogger]

Love my C&a rz on my sidewinder. Had a little push in softer snow still so went to xcs this year, especially with extra power.

What’s this magic 0 effort steering everyone wants? And why use midevil weapons under them to make them work. With correct toe out and spring preloads they will be fine. Idk I ran C&a skis on my nytro to and liked them. An no C&a skis are not all snox race skis, that is the xt, the cc’s is similar but a lot less effort. If you just want less effort but better steering the rz that my 72 year old father prefers on front of his sidewinder and has no problem making 200 mile days or the xpt that we replaced those pos pilot skis on front of my gfs skidoo with would be great choices. Please do not bother with anything but curve or C&a ski or one the other big brands. Manufacturers skis all suck, and snow trackers are the most hideous thing I’ve ever seen bolted to a ski and quite frightening.

Reason snow trackers suck, 1 they are massive steel pieces that bolt to your ski, 2 skis like curve and C&a are actually molded flat so that when loop is installed it pulls them back and acts like a leaf spring over bumps. Now let’s bolt steal plates and angles to the bottom. Dumb.

Dont knock it til you try it! I had same thoughts as you about the SnoTrackers until last year when my buddy, who has been using them for years and rides Thousands of miles, talked me into finally getting a set and I wont be looking back. His are on a cat and mine on curves and they just plain work!

 

[74Nitro]

My dealer tells me middle of January until the stryke shows up.

 

[Kuzzy]

Wow, lots of posts , I put on 430km today. I loosened the front springs and it made a big difference . I feel like I am close to getting it the way I want, I'll take a bit more out of the front and crank the center a bit more., and see if can live with them. The are still a bit heavy, but the feed back is pretty good , and I can side hill like crazy. I can steer quite easy under power, problem is that I have to be going over 60 to turn it easy haha. I sway from back country to trails year to year depending on the amount of snow we get, and was hoping that the c&a xtc was as true of crossover ski as they claimed . I use to work for Robbie Malonoski's dad and Robbie always spoke highly of the c&a, so when I had the opportunity to throw them on the sled loan , I pulled the trigger. I have logged about 6000km on a btx 1.75 with the mountain ski and always just wanted more out of it, that is what drove me to try something different . My xtx has the 2.0 146 track, and that versatrak is something else, the weight shifts so smoothly and at the command of the throttle.

 

[Mototown]

Have 500 km on the 2021 srx , Stryke is really good for no darting with stock carbides. Snow tracker order just went out to kimpex & Motovan for stryke ski , hoping to have them on before New Years to test . Looks like I will also be getting stiffer rear springs ,

 

[KnappAttack]

Have 500 km on the 2021 srx , Stryke is really good for no darting with stock carbides. Snow tracker order just went out to kimpex & Motovan for stryke ski , hoping to have them on before New Years to test . Looks like I will also be getting stiffer rear springs ,

No matter what ski they go on SnowTrackers make them better. I don't care what the naysayers that haven't tried them say. Their only drawback is catching rocks once in a while and a fair amount of push in loose snow when they pack up, but 95% of the time they are the best thing you can bolt up to a ski for carbides for no darting, go where pointed and easy steering. The plus side is you can tune you suspension back as a suspension for proper ride and handling of the machine and not steering effort or push.

 

[VyperNation]

...At first the steering was heavy and atrocious, I have adjusted the center shock spring to where I can turn the handle bar on cement with moderate effort. Then I adjusted the camber to 0.2 degrees, and the toe out to about 3/8". The Steering is still pretty heavy at slow speeds and on the trail...

Ran C&A's for one weekend on the 137 Winder and couldn't tear them back off fast enough. The heaviest steering effort I have ever seen on a sled. By a lot. It didn't matter what I did to the suspension, made for a very long weekend. After that I bought a set of Mohawks, and then another set lol, and have been running them on both sleds ever since and couldn't be happier.

 

[sailor joe]

Or...you could put on the GSE power steering...I tried it out on my sled today going through some pretty boney stuff up around Naples Maine...they work, just think where you want your sled to go and your there...so easy. Be prepared to drop some coin on it though.

 

[Kuzzy]

That GSE sure isnt cheap lol, but realistically a little over twice what my ski setup costs. 2060$ CAD plus shipping....no sir i dont think i can swing it this year haha, I have however added it to my bookmarks

 

[Alsim]

C&a razor with agressive snowtracker is perfect with no heavy steering