hey

Well to be honest I don't think u were with a very good shock guy. U may have to change springs and diff valving. The shock itself can leave alot to be desired even when optimized. Sure the geometry of the nytro needs some tweaks. Subframe is known issue but for a slight investment from grizz or a few others doing gusset work you'll fix that. For deep powder a float plate would help u a bunch. Aswell as good skis.

Shocks are. Very important part of this and need to be looked at and handled right. That's why I laughed at 900-1200 for a full set of shocks. They would be pretty cheesy. Also being "heavy" is a lame excuse. micky Thompson can get a few ton truck through a desert i think were capable of overcoming the fact were maybe 30-50lbs heavier than the others. Axis an exit seem to have worked out a good package for this fled. And hoping I can try to work something out with my brother using the shocks he is affiliated with an apply them to snowmobiles ... No promises it will be great but I'd like to try.
 
Lame, really? shocks don't lower the total weight, 700 lbs is 700lbs no matter how you slice. You may have the best riding shocks made, the thing still weights 700lbs. Glad to know $1200 is chump change for you, your awesome.
 
Never said its chump change. Reading comprehension goes a long ways here. It's alot of money but your not even getting factory shocks for that price. It's like thinking your buying a brand new car for 8 grand.

Yes weight is important but 50lbs in the grand scheme can be lost from under most of our riding gear and gain more performance than off the Sled. To say a shock package will fail because the nytro is 50lbs heavier is obsurd at best.
 
Who said anything about shock failure, my point is that the sled is heavy and in low snow conditions it slams into the ground more. I guess well have to agree to disagree. I like the nytro concept, but the biggest drawback is the weight issue, I am hoping the new viper will be an improvement. I dropped over $11k for my sled new when i got it and could not justify another few grand for shocks. And my nytro is alot more than 50lbs than my etec 600 renegade. Good luck to you in NY.
 
I will take the weight over 2 stroke rebuilds and burn downs any day imo
 
It's em either wrong springs or wrong valving. A 4-5000lb caddy drives like a cloud. 2-3000lb Honda does not. Go figure... I agree it's alot of money and the shocks may take more. But. Rider is up to 2/3 the weight of the sled. That makes shocks that much more difficult to tune in bulk.

Never said a failure. Saying its not successful it failed at doing what it's supposed to
 
I am just getting back from a few days away on a business trip and see that my comment on after market shock prices caused a few of you to have fun with it and others to maybe get upset with those that had fun with it. Personally I thought the comments were funny and will be looking for shocks at Walmart next time I am there - ha ha.

I used to race Nascar asphalt Late Models, SCCA club and formula 2000 open wheel cars and do know what shocks cost!!! My mistake was leaving out the "per shock" text at the end of my post which I thought I had typed in.

I will say this, using the right person with the right knowledge, tools and experiance to rebuild and tune your stock shocks goes a long way to getting your sled to perform as you would like and cost you about 1/2 what a single "high-end" after market shock could possibly cost you. I personally WILL NOT spend the money to buy after market shocks for a couple of reasons --

1. The Mfr or vendor is usually not willing to take the time to fully understand me, my sled, sled mods, riding style and terrain I ride on to design and deliver the shock package I need. I have heard and read time and time again how people that buy after market shocks have to tune on them as much if not more than the stock shocks.

2. The guy I use for my shocks is willing to do what I mentioned in #1 above. In fact if you bring your sled to his shop he will have you take it out on the trail in the area to test ride and then re-tune if he has to and keep doing this until you are satisfied.

3. I have already paid for the stock shocks as they come with the sled when I buy it. If I can put half the money of a new set of after market shocks into my stock shocks and get the ride I am looking for I am money WAY ahead. Again, finding the right peson with the righ knowledge, tools and experiance is key to making stock shocks work.

Just my $0.02 worth - have fun with it.
 
Agree. Most people will be sufficient with stock shocks and some tuning maybe diff springs. Just can not exspect same performance out of them as a high end shock with same time spent on them.
 
Does Wal-Mart carry fox or kyb's , last time in there I didn't see them ...lol....
Schmidt Bro's did a good job on my stock shocks ( all 4) your right half the price and you can get them tuned in may just take a weekend or two with shipping them back and forth them do wonders with the fox floats......
 
Mills said:
I am just getting back from a few days away on a business trip and see that my comment on after market shock prices caused a few of you to have fun with it and others to maybe get upset with those that had fun with it. Personally I thought the comments were funny and will be looking for shocks at Walmart next time I am there - ha ha.

I used to race Nascar asphalt Late Models, SCCA club and formula 2000 open wheel cars and do know what shocks cost!!! My mistake was leaving out the "per shock" text at the end of my post which I thought I had typed in.

I will say this, using the right person with the right knowledge, tools and experiance to rebuild and tune your stock shocks goes a long way to getting your sled to perform as you would like and cost you about 1/2 what a single "high-end" after market shock could possibly cost you. I personally WILL NOT spend the money to buy after market shocks for a couple of reasons --

1. The Mfr or vendor is usually not willing to take the time to fully understand me, my sled, sled mods, riding style and terrain I ride on to design and deliver the shock package I need. I have heard and read time and time again how people that buy after market shocks have to tune on them as much if not more than the stock shocks.

2. The guy I use for my shocks is willing to do what I mentioned in #1 above. In fact if you bring your sled to his shop he will have you take it out on the trail in the area to test ride and then re-tune if he has to and keep doing this until you are satisfied.

3. I have already paid for the stock shocks as they come with the sled when I buy it. If I can put half the money of a new set of after market shocks into my stock shocks and get the ride I am looking for I am money WAY ahead. Again, finding the right peson with the righ knowledge, tools and experiance is key to making stock shocks work.

Just my $0.02 worth - have fun with it.
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Last year when I got my 08 nytro the shocks were pounded and the center shock had been replaced with a non factory shock. I talked to the guys at hygear suspension about rebuilding or replacing them. Thier advice was that rebuilding and upgading the stock shocks internally was just as good as a what the aftermarket had to offer and for about half the price.
 
Not only does Walmart carry fox, kyb, huffy, mattel and fisher price they also stock a complete line of pogo sticks (which btw are on clearance), for that lightweight and less expensive apporach to better sled handling. Lets not forget yamahas "state of the art" 90'S front suspensions. Just sayin
 
Hyprst what Walmart aisle are the pogo sticks in? My buddy has a '90 Exciter that needs a new front "stick". I am thinking of getting him a new one for his b-day.
 
At my local Walmart they can be found in the seasonal dept aisle 4 between the "jungle plums" and the "hybrid squirrel traps". I have also seen them in aisle 12 usually near the left handed "metric" adjustable wrenches. Hope this helps.
 
anybody else have experience with Schmidt Brothers? :rocks:
 
I did not see Elka shocks mentioned in this thread. Elka offers an incredible amount of tune-ability in their Stage 5 package where a rider can easily make the necessary valving changes right from the clickers. Stack modifications are not typically required due to the broad range of external adjustment. You can dial them in for different conditions and then easily revert back to each specific setup based on the riding you are doing that day.

I'll mention also that changing the low speed compression for example doesn't change your high speed or rebound. Each setting is very much independent of the others.... Elka's clicker package is extremely refined. In terms of quantifying the upgrade, I would equate adding Elka shocks to adding 70hp. The change is that dramatic.









- Sean
 
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