How many had chaincase issues with their Apex?

How many of had chaincase issues with their Apex sleds?

  • No chaincase problems at all in 3000+ miles

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No problems at all in 3000+ miles and we ride at full throttle for miles at a time

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Chaincase problems

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    0
2200 miles and my chain case is good

Did break the shock wire .. but i expected that
 
This poll should be redone so that it is a YES or NO answer..

I dont have 3000 miles on my sled (that way it shows how over blown the whole deal is
 
77srxdude said:
I voted for no problems because wanted to see the poll - I do not have an apex.

Maybe you should add a : "does not have an apex but wants to see the poll" choice.

Can't you just click "view results"?
 
welterracer said:
This poll should be redone so that it is a YES or NO answer..

I don't have 3000 miles on my sled (that way it shows how over blown the whole deal is

It's important to know what percentage of sleds can make it to 3000 miles (or some arbitrary distance) without problems. If you vote no problems and have low miles it artificially makes the problem less of an issue.

To me 3000 miles is about 1/2 a typical season. If 38% of the chaincases are going bad in 1/2 a season worth of riding, it's a major problem to me (subtracting off the couple of extra "no problem" votes to see the results, the problem is actually worse than 38%).

If you want to be able to ride 6000+ miles without a major breakdown this is clearly a problem area on these sleds. After seeing these results, if I buy an RTX and it has a fully magnesium chaincase (without any specific improvements for cooling), I will definitely be replacing it with an 05 chaincase.

As I mentioned in another thread two out of three Apex's I ride with have had chaincase problems and the one that didn't fail has less than 2000 miles on it.
 
MightyRTX said:
You should also ask if the sled has reverse or not. I have yet to read any issues with non-reverse sleds...........

Good point. Maybe another poll: "those with chaincase problems do you have reverse?"
 
No problem on the 4 I ride hard with!
3 Attaks & 1 GT.
I didn't know there was any issues with the chaincases!

BR
 
ReX said:
77srxdude said:
I voted for no problems because wanted to see the poll - I do not have an apex.

Maybe you should add a : "does not have an apex but wants to see the poll" choice.

Can't you just click "view results"?

for some reason I thought you had to choose one. my bad.
 
if you did a poll on milage.. most peoples normal year is 1000-2000 miles.. not 6 or 7 thousand like you might think..
 
welterracer said:
if you did a poll on milage.. most peoples normal year is 1000-2000 miles.. not 6 or 7 thousand like you might think..

Yes you are correct, but do you consider a sled with almost a 40% failure rate of the chaincase within the first 3000 miles a highly durable sled?

Would it bother you if your chaincase let go 1000 miles from home on a sledding vacation of a lifetime?

To put things in perspective (why I'm concerned about this), riding in northern Ontario and Quebec it's easy for us to put on well over 400 miles per day. We've talked about doing a 2 week trip or 16 days and that works out to about 6400 miles right there... (two oil changes required also). I'm not sure if there's a sled out there than could make it, but Yamaha's 07 RTX or Nitro with an 05 aluminum chaincase (or an 05 Vector - they are also extremely durable) are probably the two most likely to survive. To make them even more appealing they are all great sleds to ride.
 
Just to clarify.

The intent of this poll is to provide a measure of how many sleds make it to 3000+ miles without chaincase trouble vs how many sleds make it to 3000+ miles with chaincase problems.

If a chaincase failes before 3000 miles, it is intended to be included in the problem vote because that sled will not make it to 3000+ miles without chaincase trouble. If too many sleds have chaincase problems with less than 3000 miles on them this poll can color the results a little and make the problem look somewhat worse than it is (when you consider downtime and the reduced miles with a broken chaincase this helps to level the statistics).

The intent is to provide a statistic on how likely an 06 Apex will make it to 3000+ miles without problems.

Right now it predicts about 63% will not have any trouble for more than 3000 miles (how much more the poll as designed can't answer).

The driving it wide open question doesn't really tell us anything statistically other than some sleds driven hard don't have any trouble in more than 3000 miles (maybe all of the failures were driven hard - maybe not...).
 
Two points: Any sled with mechanical reverse will be at greater risk for chaincase-related problems than an identical sled without mechanical reverse. There is quite simply more pieces there to fail. Also- other sites have mentioned problems with the adjustment of the Apex reverse systems. Mechanical reverse also takes more power and adds weight to an already overweight sled albeit only 4lbs. Sorry - that got to be four points. When riding my RTX long distance solo I don't worry about losing a chaincase because I bought it without reverse on purpose. Mechanical reverse is a bad thing. Just my 2 cents.
 
The 2006 yamaha apex's will go down in history as having chain case problems and hadle bar warmer problems..Just like my 1998 Srx 700 went down as having crank problems...It was adressed by yamaha and re-welded at their expense..Just hope they adress the 2006 issues..
 


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