Lower ball joint bulletin out this week 20oct08: got mine on

[sheetwright]

I double checked there twice to ensure that the a-arms I was exchanging with my buddy were the correct ones for both our sleds. As it turns out, the MTX A-arms are at least an inch shorter.

but the part numbers were identical when I added them to my picklist.

I didn't see that they were the same at least between the MTX/RTX
08 FX Nytro MTX: #37 8HA-23540-00-P0 FRONT UPPER ARM COMP. (LEFT) S8 FOR DPBSE
08 FX Nytro RTX: #37 8GL-23540-00-P0 FRONT UPPER ARM COMP. (LEFT) S8 FOR DPBSE

interesting...Was that on Yamaha.com?

What I did was add a-arms and all associated parts to the picklist from the MTX and then switch to Nytro and add the parts again. Instead of having two different parts listed, I had 2 of everything in my cart. Did it twice. Like I said, lesson learned, and it makes perfect sense.

A-arms going in for paint tomorrow. White I believe will be the color of choice. Got the silver rear idler on, but it looks terrible with the yellow slides. Never thought I'd want a set of slides to burn fast LOL.

Goddo, are you having your a arms painted or powder coated ? I was going to try paint and see how it holds up, but I was told that a few runs through the woods and the paint will chip and peel off very easily. Perhaps it all comes down to prep work...

The body shop guy by me said that he puts a small quart can of the paint on a hot plate. Heats it up just before boil. You don't want to boil/ruin it. Then he puts in his hose and sprays it. It puts on a much harder shell then plain paint, and the gloss is like a mirror. I went with powdercoat to be on the safe side, but if you were to paint I would bake it on like that IMO.

 

[Goddo]

I double checked there twice to ensure that the a-arms I was exchanging with my buddy were the correct ones for both our sleds. As it turns out, the MTX A-arms are at least an inch shorter.

but the part numbers were identical when I added them to my picklist.

I didn't see that they were the same at least between the MTX/RTX
08 FX Nytro MTX: #37 8HA-23540-00-P0 FRONT UPPER ARM COMP. (LEFT) S8 FOR DPBSE
08 FX Nytro RTX: #37 8GL-23540-00-P0 FRONT UPPER ARM COMP. (LEFT) S8 FOR DPBSE

interesting...Was that on Yamaha.com?

What I did was add a-arms and all associated parts to the picklist from the MTX and then switch to Nytro and add the parts again. Instead of having two different parts listed, I had 2 of everything in my cart. Did it twice. Like I said, lesson learned, and it makes perfect sense.

A-arms going in for paint tomorrow. White I believe will be the color of choice. Got the silver rear idler on, but it looks terrible with the yellow slides. Never thought I'd want a set of slides to burn fast LOL.

Goddo, are you having your a arms painted or powder coated ? I was going to try paint and see how it holds up, but I was told that a few runs through the woods and the paint will chip and peel off very easily. Perhaps it all comes down to prep work...

The body shop guy by me said that he puts a small quart can of the paint on a hot plate. Heats it up just before boil. You don't want to boil/ruin it. Then he puts in his hose and sprays it. It puts on a much harder shell then plain paint, and the gloss is like a mirror. I went with powdercoat to be on the safe side, but if you were to paint I would bake it on like that IMO.

Interesting sheet...Thanks for the input brother.

Back on the topic of ball joints. When Kins was over the other day we were discussing a potential theory pertaining to why so many have failed and some are still like new (mine for example).

We both thought it could have something to do with the powder coated arms. Maybe those that have the thick powder coat (yellow for example) have enough powder coat to allow the ball joints to generate less slop over time.

My other theory is skis. I have pilots on and have had them since about the 3rd time out (100 -150 miles). Maybe the shape of the keel and double carbide don't allow for as much movement of the spindle, there by eliminating ball joint wear.

It would be interesting to hear from Yellow a-arm owners, and those with pilots or after market (non-stock skis).

 

[CROW]

I don't think the powdercoat has anything to do with the slop. The slop is between the two interior surfaces of the ball joint, not the area that contacts the powdercoat.

 

[Goddo]

I don't think the powdercoat has anything to do with the slop. The slop is between the two interior surfaces of the ball joint, not the area that contacts the powdercoat.

I haven't examined it closely, but it looks like the whole arm is coated, even inside the hole where the ball joint is pressed in. I could be wrong.

 

[NyTrOMaNIaC]

Can anyone confirm if all dealers have been notified of this ball joint bulletin ? I'm taking mine to the dealer next week for a 'good goin over'.

Thanks

 

[Goddo]

Can anyone confirm if all dealers have been notified of this ball joint bulletin ? I'm taking mine to the dealer next week for a 'good goin over'.

Thanks

The bulletin should be common knowledge by now, but the parts aren't in yet, at least not at my dealer.

 

[yamy07]

I brought mine in to my dealer last Wednesday to show him the play in my ball joints & also my bent front end. We said as of Wednesday the 22nd "There has been no bulletin on the ball joints". He agreed mine were bad, but won't order any parts until this "Bulletin" comes out. So, what's the deal , is there a Bulletin or not? Anyone have a number on it? I'm getting tired of the run-around.

 

[BLUEBALLER]

I brought mine in to my dealer last Wednesday to show him the play in my ball joints & also my bent front end. We said as of Wednesday the 22nd "There has been no bulletin on the ball joints". He agreed mine were bad, but won't order any parts until this "Bulletin" comes out. So, what's the deal , is there a Bulletin or not? Anyone have a number on it? I'm getting tired of the run-around.

give him the part # of the new balljoints - tell him to warranty the old ones with the new part #.

unless you ran out of warranty, it shouldn't be an issue. they are a direct replacement for the 08s. not an 09 specific part.

 

[yamy07]

He says the bulletin is due by the end of the month & he's not doing anything til he gets the bulletin. Bulletin,bulletin,bulletin that's all I hear. I asked him if they shouldn't be covered by warranty anyway & he says - Wait for the Bulletin!

 

[AKrider]

I don't see paint or powder coating making any difference to the ball joint. The wear occurs between the race and ball. The liner material gets beat out and then the joint has slop. The ball joint them wears at an even increased rate.

 

[snowy1]

just talked to my dealer, at the dealer meeting they said no bulletin yet, waiting for the tool to remove ball joints to be made, then they will replace bad ones only.

 

[NyTrOMaNIaC]

Well I just finished checking mine over. No wonder my sled wouldn't track straight towards the end of the season. Both sides are totally shot ! There was so much play, I could actually hear them clunking when I lifted up on the upper a arm, and I could see them lifting up and down inside the spindle. Called my dealer, both sides are on order and being replaced next week.

 

[Goddo]

Well I just finished checking mine over. No wonder my sled wouldn't track straight towards the end of the season. Both sides are totally shot ! There was so much play, I could actually hear them clunking when I lifted up on the upper a arm, and I could see them lifting up and down inside the spindle. Called my dealer, both sides are on order and being replaced next week.

I honestly couldn't believe the difference in my ball joints and Kins'. His were like listening to plinko. You could move them about a 1/8 inch in any direction. Mine were tight and virtually no play whatsoever. I had thought that skis might have made a difference, but I know Nytromaniac has powder pros

 

[tomMTX]

Dropped my Nytro off at the shop this morning for another warranty issue and the shop guy said no ball joint bulletin. Bummer. Hope mine hold out long enough for this mystery bullentin.

 

[NyTrOMaNIaC]

Bulletin or not, if the balljoints on your sled have failed, they should be covered under warranty, or at least I would think so. And in reference to previous posts, others have had them covered already, so we can at least use this thread as such to inform our dealers/reps. Good Luck guys