Rikar
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I had an M10 back in 1996 and thru the years I ended putting it in 6 different sleds (3 SRX 700s), loved that thing. All with a loss of about 5mph on top end. I have two questions. 1) Should I expect to lose top end speed with the new M10's in my RTX, and 2) Will it corner flatter due to less weight transfer? Right now I have the limiter straps on 2nd from the tightest to corner effectively with 6" duallys but inside ski lift is still a concern unless I have my weight as far forward as possible.
LazyBastard
TY 4 Stroke God
Why would you put an m10 in place of a mono? They're both high maintenance relatively delicate skids, they ride about the same, and the mono has the added benefit of weight transfer (ADJUSTABLE!!! - so you can set it low if you want).
Really no need to go to an M-10 unless you just want to try it out. If you do - worthless going to the M-10 - it does have transfer issues - go to the M-12.
3-5 mph loss - closer to 3 if you run your track good and loose.
3-5 mph loss - closer to 3 if you run your track good and loose.
Rikar
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Three points 1) The mono shock suspension does not handle the stutter bumps nearly as well as an M10, 2) The mono shock has a tendency to bottom out and if you stiffen it up its stiff over everything while the M10 is not and 3) Weight transfer is a problem with the mono shock. Less weight transfer would give a more predictable cornering effect than the mono. It might not hook up quite as well but I think you could set up the skid to give more predictable cornering. Those are the reasons I am thinking of going back to the M10. The reason I would not go to the M12 is because the ride height will be higher than the stock mono or the M10 giving it more of a feeling of topheavyness.
monker
TY 4 Stroke Guru
as far as I know everything you encounterd before is the same. I put a 136 m10 in my warrior and didn't notice any change in cornering compared to stock. The ride was much improved as you know though. I also put 8" rear wheels in the back so I did not loose any top end. Also, shaving 1/8" off the coupling blocks helps with transfer. I could pull the skiis from a dead stop on hardpack and from a roll it would hold the front up so just the back of the skiis would bounce off the snow, just about perfect.
I will probably be putting the skid up for sale this weekend. The sled will be going to 'race only' on the asphalt.
I will probably be putting the skid up for sale this weekend. The sled will be going to 'race only' on the asphalt.
1) I spent 3000 miles on my M-10 (02 XC800) and 2000 miles on my monoshock - neither is any better than the other in the stutters, moguls or what not. They are dead on similar in their characteristics - IMO. Both are great for that.
2) My mono did bottom a little easier than my M-10 - I'll give you that.
3)I can't see a weight transfer problem with the Mono - you can have it transfer very little or a lot - it's up to you. The M-10 has little to no ability to transfer. The way it is setup is not bad, but it just doesn't give you the adjustability - and some people don't need that.
Your right about the M-12 being taller.
Like I said, if you want to try something different in your sled, get the M-10 - but I highly doubt it will be an improvement.
I put an Xpert in my 05 RX1 to try something different. It handles the heavier stuff (jumping, big rollers) much better than my M-10 and Mono did - but it doesn't deal with the ligther stuff as well - good - but just not as good. And I have gone through just about every range of adjustment in all three skids.
2) My mono did bottom a little easier than my M-10 - I'll give you that.
3)I can't see a weight transfer problem with the Mono - you can have it transfer very little or a lot - it's up to you. The M-10 has little to no ability to transfer. The way it is setup is not bad, but it just doesn't give you the adjustability - and some people don't need that.
Your right about the M-12 being taller.
Like I said, if you want to try something different in your sled, get the M-10 - but I highly doubt it will be an improvement.
I put an Xpert in my 05 RX1 to try something different. It handles the heavier stuff (jumping, big rollers) much better than my M-10 and Mono did - but it doesn't deal with the ligther stuff as well - good - but just not as good. And I have gone through just about every range of adjustment in all three skids.
