cork
Newbie
I have 72 studs in the track, and the stock carbides with 1050 miles on them were toast, and the sled was pushing hard in the corners. So I had the dealer put new 6" carbides on my '07 GT, and after my first ride of 53 miles on relatively well groomed trails, my shoulders are killing me! 
The handling in the corners with the new carbides is WAY better, almost effortless. But, on the straightaways, it is darting all over the trail. Any suggestions.
Thanks
Cork
The handling in the corners with the new carbides is WAY better, almost effortless. But, on the straightaways, it is darting all over the trail. Any suggestions.Thanks
Cork
Grimm
TY 4 Stroke God
phaze5
TY 4 Stroke Guru
how does your sled hook up with the studs . i have the same sled .i also have 6inches i keep my weight more to the back of the sled and let her carve in the corners
cork
Newbie
The studs hookup nicely, and are needed on some of the icier trails and corners that i encounter throughout the season. I will take note of the further back riding position, as i have a tendency to ride the GT like a motorcycle, and be very close to the seat. My problem is not in the cornering, it is the straight aways, so I will try to shift my weight a little more to the rear as I come out of the corners. I also think that the combination of the carbides being new and sharp, and a firm but shallow base trail made for a much different ride than I had become accustomed to. Last year there was hardly any darting at all, but the original stock carbides were really beat by the end of the season, so it is very hard to compare the ride.
Hopefully I will get out tomorrow or Thursday, so I will be able to experiment with the ride.
Thanks,
Cork
Hopefully I will get out tomorrow or Thursday, so I will be able to experiment with the ride.
Thanks,
Cork
ndc821
Extreme
When I first rode my new phazer I was experiencing the same type of problem with the darting issue also I was having a hard time in the corners getting the sled to turn. What I did was set the rear suspension up to the high setting on the adjustment block on both sides of the undercarriage and then torque the front suspension springs down 3-4 turns to put a bit more down pressure on the skis. This seemed to help the darting and handling problem quite a bit by driving the carbide into the snow to bite down. I would not say that the problem completely dissolved, but it did improve the ride significantly. After experimenting with my sled I let my parents and fiance (who also own phazers) give it a try. The results were conclusive, all 4 of us agreed the ride was much better and we ended up setting the suspension for all 4 of our sleds this same way. No complaints about handling since!
wayfastkev
Pro
You could buy Woody Dooleys. I havent bought a set yet but I have rode them on other sleds and that work good. Keeps you out of the main groove that all the other sleds are using on the trail.
As far as cornering take a look at the front suspension strap. The GT models are bolted in shorter than the FX or MTX chassis (different hole). I decided to shorten mine one hole on my FX Phazer. It wasnt all that bad stock, but once I installed the 1.5" Freeride track it got so much better traction that the excessive weight transfer kept the Ski's up in the air half the time. So I shorten it one hole and wow it made it manageable again. Plus, it still works great in deep POW so I dont think I compromised much. Something to think about.
As far as cornering take a look at the front suspension strap. The GT models are bolted in shorter than the FX or MTX chassis (different hole). I decided to shorten mine one hole on my FX Phazer. It wasnt all that bad stock, but once I installed the 1.5" Freeride track it got so much better traction that the excessive weight transfer kept the Ski's up in the air half the time. So I shorten it one hole and wow it made it manageable again. Plus, it still works great in deep POW so I dont think I compromised much. Something to think about.
Hey cork, two things.
1. Phazers use a 9mm wear bar, almost all other Yamahas use 11mm bar. The smaller bar on the Phazer reduces darting and keeps steering light.
2. Adding carbide will almost always increase darting and make steering feel heavier. Yes more carbide will corner better but there are trade-offs and you're discovering them.
If you have 11mm bars AND 6" carbide that will explain your heavy steering and darting.
1. Phazers use a 9mm wear bar, almost all other Yamahas use 11mm bar. The smaller bar on the Phazer reduces darting and keeps steering light.
2. Adding carbide will almost always increase darting and make steering feel heavier. Yes more carbide will corner better but there are trade-offs and you're discovering them.
If you have 11mm bars AND 6" carbide that will explain your heavy steering and darting.
