Preacher
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I have over 60 ,000 miles on Simmons gen 2 flex skis. They transformed the heavier front weight of the Apexes into a railing machine. Oh, welcome to the dark side. I never thought I would say those words lol, Preacher
dab102999
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When I got my machine it had powder hounds on it. Never had a reason to change them. First set of skags were reg carbide...second and third set were and are shaper bars. No darting and very controlable at high speed. 90% groom trail for me but when I do field ride the wider ski is nice. Gets the front end up on top of the snow. I will eventually put bergstoms on it for I have heard nothing but good about them. Trackers look a little scarry to me.
psledhead
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I went back to stock skis w/Woody's Slim Jims. I've run USI, SLP & Pilots previous.
Floats set @ 55psi and no darting. Minimal push and only when there is a few inches of powder on the trail.
Like you, I only trail ride both slow (w/women) and fast with the guys, works perfectly.
Floats set @ 55psi and no darting. Minimal push and only when there is a few inches of powder on the trail.
Like you, I only trail ride both slow (w/women) and fast with the guys, works perfectly.
apex55
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My pilot skis with dual shapers are great on the trail, but suck in powder.
Mile9c1
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Thanks for the opinions guys. I'm out of cash so my choices at this time are limted. It has Shaper bars so I think I'll shim them and see how it goes.
P.S. I still have an SX viper so I'm not totally converted. The Viper is such a blast with a monoskid and BOSS seat, it's a keeper.
P.S. I still have an SX viper so I'm not totally converted. The Viper is such a blast with a monoskid and BOSS seat, it's a keeper.
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I say put your Tuner skis on.
I have Tuners on my Attak and they work very well on the trails, absolutely no darting and positive turns.
I was playing in the deep powder today and the sled handled good as long as I stayed on the power.
I was playing in the deep powder today and the sled handled good as long as I stayed on the power.
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Try the stockers FIRST. As you can see, everybody & every machine is different. Just make sure you're towed out & check threads on shimming rear of ski. If you don't try stock first, how will you know if you made it better or worse...
torque monster
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Completely happy with stock skis and 6" woodys dooly slim jim, feels like power steering,nodarting,precise. Awesome on trails. Too narrow for deep powder.
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MidwestMike said:
I agree. I have had the doolys on my rx1 and it railed! Have tried the Tuners and SLP skiis on my Attak and they pretty much suck. The Tuners still dart and you cant hardly go through a yard let alone off tail. Dollar for dollar, doolys are the best route.
Mile9c1
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I ran the stockers with 6" Shapers and 3mm shims. They darted, but not as much as my old vmax did (so it was tolerable IMO). Steering effort was quite high.
I plan to try 4.5mm shims and less ski shock air pressure next time (maybe 50psi).
I plan to try 4.5mm shims and less ski shock air pressure next time (maybe 50psi).
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kidastra said:
+2
I was concerned about the snowtrackers at first too but I put them on and will not go back to anything else. I ride fast and had the Apex up to 114 on gps. The trackers felt more stable than doolies AND have a lot less drag. The thing rails in the twistys and gain a little mpg too!
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I just got back from 650 miles of trail riding in the UP of Michigan. I bought a used 2007 Attak GT while I was there from Pat's in Greenland. It is super clean but all stock other than Dooly carbides. Including myself there were 4 guys in my group all with Attak models, two other Attak GT's like mine, a 2008 Ltx 40 yr model and a 2006 with a MPI charger....guy with 2008 stocker also brought his MPI machine along.
My Attak with Doolys had no darting issues but did push quite a bit in the corners. One of the Attak GT's had darting issues so he put Dooly's on at the dealer. The other Attak GT is stretched to 144 with a 1.5" lug and Slydog Powderhounds. That one not only pushed but also darted quite a bit so that answered my questions on those skis. The 2008 Ltx 40 yr is stock but studded and whatever carbides it has they work, no darting, no pushing....it rails. Wish he knew what they are. The MPI machine he owns has a nailed Cobra and C&A powder skis. It turns on a dime but is an arm and shoulder workout. Kind of like driving a car without power steering.
For me I would like to go with Tuners but don't like the fact that they are no good in powder. In the future I want to try a Cobra track and I want skis that float too. So finding a ski that not only reduces darting, rails corners but also floats would be the ultimate for me. On my list are Curves, Simmons or SLP Powder Pros. I have a friend with an Attak that has a Cobra with SLP PP's and it works real good.
My Attak with Doolys had no darting issues but did push quite a bit in the corners. One of the Attak GT's had darting issues so he put Dooly's on at the dealer. The other Attak GT is stretched to 144 with a 1.5" lug and Slydog Powderhounds. That one not only pushed but also darted quite a bit so that answered my questions on those skis. The 2008 Ltx 40 yr is stock but studded and whatever carbides it has they work, no darting, no pushing....it rails. Wish he knew what they are. The MPI machine he owns has a nailed Cobra and C&A powder skis. It turns on a dime but is an arm and shoulder workout. Kind of like driving a car without power steering.
For me I would like to go with Tuners but don't like the fact that they are no good in powder. In the future I want to try a Cobra track and I want skis that float too. So finding a ski that not only reduces darting, rails corners but also floats would be the ultimate for me. On my list are Curves, Simmons or SLP Powder Pros. I have a friend with an Attak that has a Cobra with SLP PP's and it works real good.
