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Anybody heard anything on these "Push" turbos?? Good, bad, anything?? Suppose to have 210hp on pump gas??
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I have an issue with the numbers I have seen for Push turbos posted online: Correction factor
I'm also curious how the liquid to air IC works? Is it using engine coolant, or is it using it's own chilled liquid?
I'm also curious how the liquid to air IC works? Is it using engine coolant, or is it using it's own chilled liquid?
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I think PUSH was the Yamaha supplier initially for the turbo kits, and MPI supplied the supercharger kits. Then MPI took over both.
I was never impressed with their quality on the Doo XR1200 kit. Guys were blowing apart the stock plastic airbox apart on low boost kits. I think they were also sending kits out few years back with chinese knockoff garrett turbos. I'm not sure if they are using true Tial stuff now, or if they are using Tial exhaust housing and HTA billet wheel on a chinese center section.
That said, It looks like they have improved on some their components. I like their idea of the barrell WTA intercooler, and the silicone charge tube/airbox has nice flowing bends!
I'm pretty sure most kits running over 200HP are running a head shim to run pump gas. EVO might be the exception, dunno.
I was never impressed with their quality on the Doo XR1200 kit. Guys were blowing apart the stock plastic airbox apart on low boost kits. I think they were also sending kits out few years back with chinese knockoff garrett turbos. I'm not sure if they are using true Tial stuff now, or if they are using Tial exhaust housing and HTA billet wheel on a chinese center section.
That said, It looks like they have improved on some their components. I like their idea of the barrell WTA intercooler, and the silicone charge tube/airbox has nice flowing bends!
I'm pretty sure most kits running over 200HP are running a head shim to run pump gas. EVO might be the exception, dunno.
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Push turbo had durability problems with there turbos, that's why MPI took over and made one. Push was not passing the tests that Yamaha was putting them through.
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Push turbo had durability problems with there turbos, that's why MPI took over and made one. Push was not passing the tests that Yamaha was putting them through.
Not sure where you guys are getting your "data" from, however the story behind PUSH is actually much different than whats here. The source for the PUSH turbo (pump itself) is the same as it is for Garret and most auto manufacturers out there. Don't fool yourself and think that most turbos are made in the US, as the majority are not. Yamaha has tested and approved and dyno tested the PUSH kit and it was approved on all fronts. The issues between PUSH and Yamaha result from Ken running a small business without the "large storefront" appeal that they were looking for which MPI has. Nothing against MPI here, they are good to deal with! However, don't feel its fair to bad mouth PUSH as they have a great product with some very innovative elements to their kits. They have well over 1000 Turbo kits out there (Nytro, Viper, 2 stroke solutions, AC 7000, etc) and have no durability/quality issues. I have talked to dealers that sell MPI, PUSH and others and they typically recommend the PUSH kits for ease of install and durability. Call Pats Yamaha or Cone Performance and Marine. They will give their thoughts.
As far as HP, the PUSH is a legit 200HP at 7lbs, no correction. Add the correction, and its 219hp. You can run these kits as 8-9lbs on 92 octane and add another 20hp if you would like. The intercooler is taking the coldest water from the heat exchanger and cooling the air going into the motor. Pretty ingenious design. The muffler is patented and meets all Db regulations.
I have a PUSH kit on my sled and couldn't be happier. I will have a few kits with me when we are racing at Haydays this year if you need a good price!
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Not sure where you guys are getting your "data" from, however the story behind PUSH is actually much different than whats here. The source for the PUSH turbo (pump itself) is the same as it is for Garret and most auto manufacturers out there. Don't fool yourself and think that most turbos are made in the US, as the majority are not. Yamaha has tested and approved and dyno tested the PUSH kit and it was approved on all fronts. The issues between PUSH and Yamaha result from Ken running a small business without the "large storefront" appeal that they were looking for which MPI has. Nothing against MPI here, they are good to deal with! However, don't feel its fair to bad mouth PUSH as they have a great product with some very innovative elements to their kits. They have well over 1000 Turbo kits out there (Nytro, Viper, 2 stroke solutions, AC 7000, etc) and have no durability/quality issues. I have talked to dealers that sell MPI, PUSH and others and they typically recommend the PUSH kits for ease of install and durability. Call Pats Yamaha or Cone Performance and Marine. They will give their thoughts.
As far as HP, the PUSH is a legit 200HP at 7lbs, no correction. Add the correction, and its 219hp. You can run these kits as 8-9lbs on 92 octane and add another 20hp if you would like. The intercooler is taking the coldest water from the heat exchanger and cooling the air going into the motor. Pretty ingenious design. The muffler is patented and meets all Db regulations.
I have a PUSH kit on my sled and couldn't be happier. I will have a few kits with me when we are racing at Haydays this year if you need a good price!
If your going to be a dealer and you have these for-sale then why not be a Vendor on the site? This sure sounds like a free ad to me.
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Not sure where you guys are getting your "data" from, however the story behind PUSH is actually much different than whats here. The source for the PUSH turbo (pump itself) is the same as it is for Garret and most auto manufacturers out there. Don't fool yourself and think that most turbos are made in the US, as the majority are not. Yamaha has tested and approved and dyno tested the PUSH kit and it was approved on all fronts. The issues between PUSH and Yamaha result from Ken running a small business without the "large storefront" appeal that they were looking for which MPI has. Nothing against MPI here, they are good to deal with! However, don't feel its fair to bad mouth PUSH as they have a great product with some very innovative elements to their kits. They have well over 1000 Turbo kits out there (Nytro, Viper, 2 stroke solutions, AC 7000, etc) and have no durability/quality issues. I have talked to dealers that sell MPI, PUSH and others and they typically recommend the PUSH kits for ease of install and durability. Call Pats Yamaha or Cone Performance and Marine. They will give their thoughts.
As far as HP, the PUSH is a legit 200HP at 7lbs, no correction. Add the correction, and its 219hp. You can run these kits as 8-9lbs on 92 octane and add another 20hp if you would like. The intercooler is taking the coldest water from the heat exchanger and cooling the air going into the motor. Pretty ingenious design. The muffler is patented and meets all Db regulations.
I have a PUSH kit on my sled and couldn't be happier. I will have a few kits with me when we are racing at Haydays this year if you need a good price!
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