Nytro FX standard vs RTX

[Nytro40th]

The snocross team dropped the ohlins and are now using floats with reservoirs. I have had no problems with mine so far.

 

[unchained]

I dont think their will be problems with Floats on the Nytro. I would like to ride a std and an RTX side by side on a rough trail and then switch sleds and compare the diff. Like I said, I went with the std because really I wanted the yellow and also I thought the std shock package was respectable anyhow......

 

[driftrunner]

When I test drove the Yamaha line up, there was no comparison between the fox floats and any of the other shocks. The Fox Floats took all of the chatter out of the handle bars in the stutters. As far as cornering that might be a different story.

 

[Nytro40th]

I went with the floats because I weigh 260 and thought I should go to a more aggresive suspension.

 

[ReX]

Basically FOX floats compared to GYTR fronts and the rear has a resovoir/dual clicker on the front arm---right?
I have noticed the front shock springs on my std are wound to the max and it feels like it when you push on the front bumper----the rear feels real soft from pushing on the rear bumper. I remember my friends earlier REV's being set-up real similiar and to me it makes perfect sense. Most of the weight including the rider is being carried by the front ski and middle track shocks. I wonder if it would be better to relocate the rear track shock resovoir to the middle track shock of the std FX to reduce fading since the middle track shock is vital in these rider forward chassis? Just a thought......

Even though the center of mass is located closest to the center shock vs ski and rear shocks, it is still the ski and rear skid shocks that do most of the damping.

If you think about it, going over bumps you want the skis and track to stay on the ground as much as possible (so you can steer). This means that the center shock (front skid shock) has to be compliant enough to fairly easily let the front of the skid move up and down.

As far as Fox Floats vs more standard shocks, the floats provide an extremely non-linear spring rate. They start off being extremely easy to compress, but the more they compress, the harder it gets to compress further. By the time they are close to bottoming out, it is almost impossible to compress them further.

This is what give the floats the ability to both soak up small stutter bumps as well as be almost impossible to bottom out, even with the biggest jump or hardest mogul hit.

The bad thing about the floats is since they provide such a soft, low spring rate when they aren't compressed much, this means they are easy to compress/extend under smooth riding conditions when cornering. What this does is greatly increase body roll on high speed corners.

When I first started riding an 06 RTX and swapped back and forth with a few buddies on their 06 Apex ERs, I couldn't get over the increase in cornering body roll. To compensate for this I installed an aftermarket 13mm sway bar on my 07 RTX and this provides a reasonable amount of body roll control (better than a stock 06 Apex ER), but it still doesn't corner as well as an 06 Apex ER with a 13mm sway bar.

Overall I am very pleased with the Fox Floats. The ride is excellent and they can handle the roughest trails with ease. With the stiffer sway bar, cornering is still very good so its a great all around performer.

With the RTX Nytro vs the regular Nytro does Yamaha use the same sway bar? They did with the Apex.

If I pick up an FX Nyrto in a year or two, it will be an RTX (I prefer a suspension that is very hard to bottom out).

 

[YAM182]

Watch (a couple times) the 08 Yamaha dvd where they show the RTX and the standard going over the bumpy trail section.It appeared to me that the RTX with Floats did not pogo stick and bounce back as much as the non-Float sled did.Float sled stayed flatter.

 

[unchained]

Watch (a couple times) the 08 Yamaha dvd where they show the RTX and the standard going over the bumpy trail section.It appeared to me that the RTX with Floats did not pogo stick and bounce back as much as the non-Float sled did.Float sled stayed flatter.

Possible, but I wouldnt make any decisions based on a slow speed clip of Ernie and Bear Cub

 

[1049]

One more difference is the skis - Nytro uses a low keel, Nytro RTX is a mid keel. Won't make much diff in the bumps but affects steering and handling.

Both use same sway bar

 

[gormleyflyer2002]

One more difference is the skis - Nytro uses a low keel, Nytro RTX is a mid keel. Won't make much diff in the bumps but affects steering and handling.

Both use same sway bar

ah, I did not know that.....have never seen that info before. Must stop looking at the pics only......!!

 

[unchained]

One more difference is the skis - Nytro uses a low keel, Nytro RTX is a mid keel. Won't make much diff in the bumps but affects steering and handling.

Both use same sway bar

Well if I would have known I could have gotten an RTX in yellow I would have for sure. Im going to need a bar riser after riding just 8 miles tonight and the rear shock package is world class on the RTX. Oh well