Oil Change Question

[gitrdun]

I changed my oil and filter on my 07 Attak yesterday,... and today. I hope you can help with a couple of questions. I drained both the tank and the pan. When I went to refill, I put three litres in the tank through the dipstick hole. I checked the dipstick after 15 minutes and it was over the full mark. I ran the engine until the warmup light went out, and shut it off, figuring this would fill the filter. Checked the dipstick again and it had dropped down to under the add mark. Then I added another .8 litres. Now it shows full. Is this the proper procedure or am I missing something? Was there oil in the pan when I started it, or should I be putting in oil somewhere other than the tank? Is the cylinder head cap important to undo, is it a vent to help drainage, or is it a vent to help filling up also?
Any info is appreciated. Thanks.

 

[AttakDog]

Oil Change

Next time you should put 1/2-3/4 of a quart in the motor through the top cap just so it didn't run dry as long.

 

[**sj**]

yes...it's 1.1 quarts to the engine and 2.1 to the tank...

 

[gitrdun]

Thanks for the info. It makes sense now. I am surprised that the cylinder head cap is not that easy to get at, if that's where I have to add oil for the pan. Also, I misplaced my owner's manual but I did look up the pages in the service manual for ENGINE OIL REPLACEMENT and it did not mention, other than the tank, where to put the oil. Again, many thanks to you guys and this forum.

 

[**sj**]

it should be known this was told to me by tim @sled-hedz.com (the gearhead realtor..lol)

 

[jwifferdill]

When I changed mine I added about 2 quarts to the tank, started the sled and let it run, and then added the rest. So you guys are saying in the future I should add some directly to the engine?

 

[**sj**]

yes...it's 1.1 quarts to the engine and 2.1 to the tank...

I suppose you are priming the motor with oil cause if it's all in the tank the motor will be dry momentarily

 

[Len Todd]

I have been using dry sump 4 - strokes since the mid 90s. Never seen a manual yet that had you add the oil direct to the dry sump.

However, if you put oil in a Dry Sump engine, you may want to wait a while for it to settle out. It is a DRY sump engine. I am not sure there is internal space to put 1 quart in the engine and still maintain proper air space in the engine. But if you let it settle back into the tank, you should be O.K.

Actually, when you read the manuals there is no mention of directly adding oil to the engine. I never do and have never had a problem. I believe you are not supposed to do that. You crank over an engine with excessive fluid in it and something might get busted. Fluids do not compress like air. But then again, I have not read the last year's manuals either. Maybe they changed something. ??

Besides, if you warm the engine, drain it, fill the tank and run the engine a moment, refill the tank, what do you gain by adding oil to a dry sump engine? It was already lubed when you drained it. In my view, all you gain is added risk, if you are not the type to have patience to let it settle out a bit.

 

[apexgt4life]

about to change the oil in my apex but i watched my yamaha dealer do it last seasn and he only added to tank, so were do i add it to engine. were is this hole on engine

 

[Reimond]

Left side on cam-shaft cover.

 

[**sj**]

I have been using dry sump 4 - strokes since the mid 90s. Never seen a manual yet that had you add the oil direct to the dry sump.

However, if you put oil in a Dry Sump engine, you may want to wait a while for it to settle out. It is a DRY sump engine. I am not sure there is internal space to put 1 quart in the engine and still maintain proper air space in the engine. But if you let it settle back into the tank, you should be O.K.

Actually, when you read the manuals there is no mention of directly adding oil to the engine. I never do and have never had a problem. I believe you are not supposed to do that. You crank over an engine with excessive fluid in it and something might get busted. Fluids do not compress like air. But then again, I have not read the last year's manuals either. Maybe they changed something. ??

Besides, if you warm the engine, drain it, fill the tank and run the engine a moment, refill the tank, what do you gain by adding oil to a dry sump engine? It was already lubed when you drained it. In my view, all you gain is added risk, if you are not the type to have patience to let it settle out a bit.

based on what your saying all the oil is out of the engine til long after it is running then...I dont think so???
I would be afraid of a dry start after an oil change personally..