Grimm
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Well I ordered some more wheels, all Kimpex pro idlers. I'm replacing all the wheels attached to the bottom rail, except for the middle rear one. For some reason, it has a removable bearing and I was able to grease that bearing. I'll probably have to have some parts machined, as I believe they all will have a wider (6205) bearing, which is also larger, which is hopefully better, cheaper, more durable and SERVICABLE. Why Yamaha put these skinny @$$ bearings in a fully enclosed wheel is beyond me. Don't tell me it's for weight reduction. :ORC
In all, I bought two wheels to replace the rears at 7 inches diameter (bearings were rough), four 5.375 inch wheels for the outer and additional/extra wheels along the rail as berge75 did and two 5.125 inch wheels for the front inner idlers.
I'm keeping front inner idler wheels sized the same as stock because I think that they suffered the greatest amount of pressure over all the other wheels, hence the early demise of these wheels. Now, hopefully the outer idlers will take some of the pressure off the inner idlers since they are larger. I had zero wear on my sliders in this area anyways.
Does this make sense to everyone? anyone? :itchy:
In all, I bought two wheels to replace the rears at 7 inches diameter (bearings were rough), four 5.375 inch wheels for the outer and additional/extra wheels along the rail as berge75 did and two 5.125 inch wheels for the front inner idlers.
I'm keeping front inner idler wheels sized the same as stock because I think that they suffered the greatest amount of pressure over all the other wheels, hence the early demise of these wheels. Now, hopefully the outer idlers will take some of the pressure off the inner idlers since they are larger. I had zero wear on my sliders in this area anyways.
Does this make sense to everyone? anyone? :itchy:
hondo
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Grimm,
I would oversize all the idler wheels.
In the front you are comparing apples to oranges.
The Kimpex/ POO wheels are a much better product than the Yamaha stock wheels. In addition, some have sugessted it may be the stock wheel bearings that cause the track howl.
A real good reason for certain to get rid of the stock wheels.
Pressure has nothing to do with it. The quality of the wheel does though.
If you keep the front stock you may have a slide wear issue due to assymetrical loading. Also, you have not solved your wheel durabilty problem.
Certainly you can do whatever you feel comfortable doing.
The POO wheels have held up real well for me.
Mine were installed at 1,750 miles and now have 12,001 miles on the sled.
The rubber is near perfect. I have replaced 2 bearings at the beginning of the season (5,720 miles) and 1 bearing toward the end of the season(11,700 miles). To me this is "normal maintenance" with regards to the number of miles ridden. More than acceptable.
I am very pleased with this upgrade. It has made the most significant difference for the 05 RS Venture. This upgrade has extended Hyfax wear to the tune of 10,251 miles on this set of slides, plus has significantly reduced track howl noise.
I do have some solid aluminum billet asphalt drag race wheels coming to replace my marginal snow wheels. I want to run them next snow season before commenting.
The marginal snow wheels do get trashed pretty easy late in the season hitting ice chunks etc., thus the idea of using aluminum.
All the maintenance trends can be read in my RS Venture 12,000 Mile Report, at the top of the RS Section.
Good Luck with your project.
I would oversize all the idler wheels.
In the front you are comparing apples to oranges.
The Kimpex/ POO wheels are a much better product than the Yamaha stock wheels. In addition, some have sugessted it may be the stock wheel bearings that cause the track howl.
A real good reason for certain to get rid of the stock wheels.
Pressure has nothing to do with it. The quality of the wheel does though.
If you keep the front stock you may have a slide wear issue due to assymetrical loading. Also, you have not solved your wheel durabilty problem.
Certainly you can do whatever you feel comfortable doing.
The POO wheels have held up real well for me.
Mine were installed at 1,750 miles and now have 12,001 miles on the sled.
The rubber is near perfect. I have replaced 2 bearings at the beginning of the season (5,720 miles) and 1 bearing toward the end of the season(11,700 miles). To me this is "normal maintenance" with regards to the number of miles ridden. More than acceptable.
I am very pleased with this upgrade. It has made the most significant difference for the 05 RS Venture. This upgrade has extended Hyfax wear to the tune of 10,251 miles on this set of slides, plus has significantly reduced track howl noise.
I do have some solid aluminum billet asphalt drag race wheels coming to replace my marginal snow wheels. I want to run them next snow season before commenting.
The marginal snow wheels do get trashed pretty easy late in the season hitting ice chunks etc., thus the idea of using aluminum.
All the maintenance trends can be read in my RS Venture 12,000 Mile Report, at the top of the RS Section.
Good Luck with your project.
Grimm
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I've had great luck with the Kimpex wheels before on my old sled. None have them warped or have had the rubber come off. Keep in mind that the front idlers will not be Yammy ones. I'm not gonna use Yammy wheels. Yammy can't make good wheels.
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Observation:
It seems that everyone has hyfax wear within the first 100 miles or so. Mine wear down to about 1/8" within that time frame and then seem to last forever.
It seems that the amount of wear equates to the difference in the diameter that others are using in place of the Yamaha wheels.
I am no engineer, but does that sound reasonable to you guys??
It seems that everyone has hyfax wear within the first 100 miles or so. Mine wear down to about 1/8" within that time frame and then seem to last forever.
It seems that the amount of wear equates to the difference in the diameter that others are using in place of the Yamaha wheels.
I am no engineer, but does that sound reasonable to you guys??
hondo
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Yes it does Snorover,
My slides with the stock wheeels would get too thin in the rear for my comfort level, especially traveling extended distances.
The oversized wheels add about another 1/8" cushion and seem to last from there.
Good point!
My slides with the stock wheeels would get too thin in the rear for my comfort level, especially traveling extended distances.
The oversized wheels add about another 1/8" cushion and seem to last from there.
Good point!
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That is my wish too.
4 sets of slides in 2600km is not acceptable.
4 sets of slides in 2600km is not acceptable.
Len Todd
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I just put on Pioneer's Off-set wheel spacers and off-set axle. You can actually see the difference. unfortunetly, I have to wait until next season to test them.
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Len Todd said:
I am going to assume you did this to your '04 RX1.
If you also have the additional small front wheel kit, you will love the change. I have done this on several no action-pro action skids. and have put 3000 to 5000+ miles on sliders with his kits.
