Trxster
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
Last year I replaced sway bar, springs, and skis and have tuned the suspension to my liking. Question though; It seemed like the powder pros were great for floating me up on the snow but when I was trying to really geek the sled over for some deep turns (12" of fresh snow) I could get the sled to go over but it would try to spring back and it took a lot out of me to try to keep my line. I thought about switching back to the stock skis but I remember they just sunk like a rock. Could it be that the PP's only work well in 24"+ of snow and should I maybe reduce the size of ski (simmons) depending on the conditions? Any thoughts would be great.
Todd
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spray25
TY 4 Stroke God
Did you by chance put on stiffer springs and/or swaybar? What you are describing sounds like a stiff swaybar or springs.
When you powder turn are you counter steering? If you are then there is no way it is the skis.
When you powder turn are you counter steering? If you are then there is no way it is the skis.
Trxster
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
PP's
I did put on the straight rate springs and 12mm bar. When I am do the deep turns seems like the skis are more straight than turned or counter turned and instead I am leaning the sled. Something wrong with the operater perhaps?
I did put on the straight rate springs and 12mm bar. When I am do the deep turns seems like the skis are more straight than turned or counter turned and instead I am leaning the sled. Something wrong with the operater perhaps?
spray25
TY 4 Stroke God
The springs and swaybar are going to fight you the whole time. It will be tough as long as you have the stiffer parts.
You definately need to lean the sled. You will find powder turns a lot easier if you counter steer. It is a very unnatural thing at first, but once you get the hang of it you will be turning like a pro.
You definately need to lean the sled. You will find powder turns a lot easier if you counter steer. It is a very unnatural thing at first, but once you get the hang of it you will be turning like a pro.
JDKRXW
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
I doubt your problem is with the skis. Removing the swaybar links is the best solution for deep powder. Your sled will handle differently in the rough stuff though.
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NOT ALL SNOW EVEN IN POWDER IS EASY TO GET AN EDGE
Deep Snow is not always equal MOISTURE CONTENT can drasticaly change SNOW STEERABILITY I would be reluctant to Blame any Ski for that issue it is true that some skies work better in Some Specific conditions
but in deep snow NOTHING BEATS BIG SIZE for ease of riding
The 2005 SKI is as wide or Wider than the Powder Pro
The 03 04 Stock Skies are SUBMARINES. on hard pack
the steerability is really dictated by your CARBIDE
In HEAVY POW with lots of moisture or fairly warm snow NO ski is perfect
even the radest drivers Flip em over. some crusty conditions feel impossible.
Stick with your powder pros if you Ride where you Actually get Lots of snow You will learn to Adjust.
Getting the RX1 to Counter steer is A Long learning process as they do react very different to a Lighter Machine in Powder I spent a few days burning Hard Figure 8 turns in different Snow conditions with stock Skies
The first time I tried Severe Hard corners oin Fat skies on an RX1 I thought it was a MASSIVE improvment. SO I WOULD KEEP THEM or get the NEW ski If you want FACE SHOTS ALL DAY the stock skies are great.
BUT IN SUPER DEEP they suck with a big Stuck.
I RIDE A LOT OF POWDER MY SWAYBAR IS STILL HOOKED UP found I liked it on better than off so Perhaps Size of the rider is an issue
Deep Snow is not always equal MOISTURE CONTENT can drasticaly change SNOW STEERABILITY I would be reluctant to Blame any Ski for that issue it is true that some skies work better in Some Specific conditions
but in deep snow NOTHING BEATS BIG SIZE for ease of riding
The 2005 SKI is as wide or Wider than the Powder Pro
The 03 04 Stock Skies are SUBMARINES. on hard pack
the steerability is really dictated by your CARBIDE
In HEAVY POW with lots of moisture or fairly warm snow NO ski is perfect
even the radest drivers Flip em over. some crusty conditions feel impossible.
Stick with your powder pros if you Ride where you Actually get Lots of snow You will learn to Adjust.
Getting the RX1 to Counter steer is A Long learning process as they do react very different to a Lighter Machine in Powder I spent a few days burning Hard Figure 8 turns in different Snow conditions with stock Skies
The first time I tried Severe Hard corners oin Fat skies on an RX1 I thought it was a MASSIVE improvment. SO I WOULD KEEP THEM or get the NEW ski If you want FACE SHOTS ALL DAY the stock skies are great.
BUT IN SUPER DEEP they suck with a big Stuck.
I RIDE A LOT OF POWDER MY SWAYBAR IS STILL HOOKED UP found I liked it on better than off so Perhaps Size of the rider is an issue
smokeless1
Pro
Counter steering
I have done very little flat land riding on my Mountain. And I am curious to know what the counter steering for causing the sled to ride one way or the other.
Am I to understand that in very deep powder, you actually steer the sled in the opposite direction to get her to lean, then turn back to get the sled to go in the direction you really want it to go? Not something I have been doing thru the trees, and up the mountains I ride in, but this is something that has made me curious about.
Who knows??
I have done very little flat land riding on my Mountain. And I am curious to know what the counter steering for causing the sled to ride one way or the other.
Am I to understand that in very deep powder, you actually steer the sled in the opposite direction to get her to lean, then turn back to get the sled to go in the direction you really want it to go? Not something I have been doing thru the trees, and up the mountains I ride in, but this is something that has made me curious about.
Who knows??
spray25
TY 4 Stroke God
Re: Counter steering
You almost have it....... You turn your skis the opposite way from the direction you want to go. This makes the sled a WHOLE bunch easier to turn up on it's side. However, you do NOT then turn the skis into the turn. You continue to turn the opposite direction and let the leaning of the machine and your throttle actually turn you. It's kind of like riding an R1 motorcylce the real turning is done by the leaning not turning the handlebars.
smokeless1 said:
You almost have it....... You turn your skis the opposite way from the direction you want to go. This makes the sled a WHOLE bunch easier to turn up on it's side. However, you do NOT then turn the skis into the turn. You continue to turn the opposite direction and let the leaning of the machine and your throttle actually turn you. It's kind of like riding an R1 motorcylce the real turning is done by the leaning not turning the handlebars.
