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I took my bros Raptor our for a run last evening since my 450 is down waiting for a tire. 40 hours on the 450 now so it was a little eye-opening switching bikes.
Ergos and ride quality no question the raptor is the king. The seat handlebar relationship is so much better for a taller rider and the weight/better shocks take the jiggles out of the ride. The raptor feels faster off the bottom end and mid-range but it isn't in side by side runs. Dual pistion brakes really haul down the speed better than the singles on my 450. The raptor also isn't as tail happy as my 450 but this might have more to do with the tire pattern as on hard pack the 450 slides like a drift car.
Handling and engine, the 450 owns the 700. The raptor dives and dips as the higher C of G can be felt trying to pull the bike over. My first ride on the raptor, I thought man this thing handles so good. Not any more. The 450 is glued to the ground; the 700 is trying to send its rider into orbit. Engine wise, the 450 keeps on pulling as the revs build but the 700 falls flat. The yfz feels more like a 2-stroke than any 4-stroke engine I've driven except for a K20.
If I were riding nothing but recreation atv trails for big miles and wanted a sport quad, no question the raptor. For fire roads, gravel pits, jumping and just play riding, the 450 shines. Budget some better shocks and a riser (mine on the way) for the Canadian model 450 and it should only get better.
Ergos and ride quality no question the raptor is the king. The seat handlebar relationship is so much better for a taller rider and the weight/better shocks take the jiggles out of the ride. The raptor feels faster off the bottom end and mid-range but it isn't in side by side runs. Dual pistion brakes really haul down the speed better than the singles on my 450. The raptor also isn't as tail happy as my 450 but this might have more to do with the tire pattern as on hard pack the 450 slides like a drift car.
Handling and engine, the 450 owns the 700. The raptor dives and dips as the higher C of G can be felt trying to pull the bike over. My first ride on the raptor, I thought man this thing handles so good. Not any more. The 450 is glued to the ground; the 700 is trying to send its rider into orbit. Engine wise, the 450 keeps on pulling as the revs build but the 700 falls flat. The yfz feels more like a 2-stroke than any 4-stroke engine I've driven except for a K20.
If I were riding nothing but recreation atv trails for big miles and wanted a sport quad, no question the raptor. For fire roads, gravel pits, jumping and just play riding, the 450 shines. Budget some better shocks and a riser (mine on the way) for the Canadian model 450 and it should only get better.
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I have had my tusk riser on for 2 days now. It transforms the bike, giving me raptor like ergos. At 3 cm / 1.2 " it feels the perfect height for me. The brake cable is a little tight in right turns as well as the throttle so I may look into replacing these soon but it works. Just couldn't go any higher with the stock cables.
Can't say enough about the change with the riser. At least 5 mph faster through the rolling bumps, easier to correct in the air and no more feeling like I'm going over the bars.
Can't say enough about the change with the riser. At least 5 mph faster through the rolling bumps, easier to correct in the air and no more feeling like I'm going over the bars.
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I also want to get a riser. So do you think a 2 inch riser would be to much for the stock cables?
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No doubt, 2 inches would be too much for the stock brake cable and the throttle. Replacements for the throttle cable aren't expensive but the brake would involve a whole new line or lines or something custom (raptor line would fit and is 1.5 inches longer) if my research on yfz central is correct.RNL79 said:
Before I got the Tusk riser, I wondered if 1.2 inches would be enough. I'm 6 foot and sitting or standing its almost perfect. I got another 1/2 inch from rolling my bars forward and level. Another set of bars could give me more if I needed it down the road.
The tusk riser is cheap ($26); it cost me $56 with shipping. Grip n Rip racing has a nice anti-vibe riser set but it costs $119. Whatever riser you get, there are half moon bar cut-outs at the top of the steering stem, which the tusk fits (see pic). Some risers use adaptor plates and that looks sketchy IMO. Then blue loctite it, let it cure and your ready for a better yfz experience.
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I was looking at the Precision anti vibe clamps. It says they raise it around 1/2 an inch which should be ok with the stock lines. Not sure 1/2 inch is enough rise though.
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I too have been wondering about precision shock & vibe bar clamps. It looks great and has good reviews over on yfz central. I was looking at it on kbmotorsports site. It comes with an adaptor plate for the yfz. Is that all 1/2 an inch? With the plate and the clamp looks like more. I know the single bolt style of clamp raise the bars 44 mm. Those and a 3/16 houser antivibe stem would be sweet.
