Ripsaw vs Predator

[breakinbarrs]

I have 9000 miles on my ER, track core looks fine but the lugs have dry rotted and are starting to break. I wanted to know if anyone has any experience with the predator. Both tracks are 1.25 tall. the Ripsaw is also advertising 1 ply, new for this year. Is that a thinner core/more top end? Prices @trackusa are 349 rip 329 pred. I wanted to buy now just in case.

 

[Sno-Xr]

My understanding is that the Predetor is a better powder track, where the ripsaw is a decent crossover.
I had a Ripsaw and my viper and have one on my Nytro XTX, and will say they are not great in the powder, but work well on-trail.

Yes the single ply will have less rotating mass and should give you a little better toppend.

 

[2ooosrx]

The single ply track is number 9146H. If you need one they are $390.00 plus shipping. Let me know, Thanks.

www.cbperformanceparts.com

Bruce

 

[suprfst]

Ive ran them both.Ripsaw has a lilttle more side bite in the corners and as was said before pedator is better in the loose snow.For the conditions I ride her in michigan I prefer the ripsaw.If you live in a place that actually gets alot of loose fresh snow then Im sure thier are better track options than listed(deeper lug as well).

 

[spddmon]

i would be cautious with the single ply and studs you could encounter a ballooning of the track which could lead to damage, but that would happen only in extended high speed situations, but with 9000mi youre probably not going to have anny problems. but with 9000mi the track has to be chainged i know a couple of people who thought the track was ok for anothe season only to have a stud pull through and punch a heatexchanger two of them lost the eng

 

[breakinbarrs]

i would be cautious with the single ply and studs you could encounter a ballooning of the track which could lead to damage, but that would happen only in extended high speed situations, but with 9000mi youre probably not going to have anny problems. but with 9000mi the track has to be chainged i know a couple of people who thought the track was ok for anothe season only to have a stud pull through and punch a heatexchanger two of them lost the eng

Was Thinking same thing on the one ply. I have always run 164 and 192 studs in my XCR and Apex. Here in the Northeast in most years other than January you will find an icy hard pack and icy plowed roads when riding. Your input is the clincher, sticking with the 2 ply ripsaw.

 

[Sno-Xr]

Personally,I dont think the single ply would balloon any more then the 2ply track.
From my understanding, the single ply weighs quite a bit less then the 2 ply, so it would have less rotating weight to cause ballooning. JMO

 

[Cobalt]

Personally I would consider the Camoplast Ice ripper XT, the best track I have ever owned!

Never been big on studs so it is a perfect fit for my riding style!

 

[lennstang]

I run the 1" Ice Attack on mine. No more chewed up idler wheels and no more vibration. Great top end.

 

[snowdust]

The single ply will save you about 6 pounds. Some of that will be lost back in the studs you have to run with the larger heads. The single ply also bends easier, but again some of that is lost with the large headed studs. Keep in mind the studs are also much more expensive than traditional style. Stretching is an issue on the single ply's. I Put one on my Apex in the off season and after hours and hours of reading feedback on the other boards I decided to take it back off and sell it to go with the traditional 2 ply. (Cobra) There were just wayyyyy too many people having issues. Cat even pulled it back off of some of their sleds this year.

IMO the single ply tracks aren't ready for the higher performance sleds with studs. The weight savings is enticing, but not worth a tore up tunnel or front heat exchanger.

 

[lennstang]

I chose the Ice Attack over the Ice Ripper because I wanted a 1" lug and I liked the track design(Hacksaw) better for trail riding, which is where I ride most of the time. I also contacted Camoplast regarding both before I purchased mine and they informed me that the 1" Ice Attack had less lug bend, therefore the studs had better penatration into the ice than the 1-1/4" lug of the Ice Ripper XT. It doesn't hook up on ice like my previous Ripsaw did with 144 studs. But it's a great balance between no studs and studs. My Apex RTX rolls much better than before. The rolling resistance has been reduced dramaticly. The the 1st thing everyone who tries my sled notices, is the lack of friction and vibration. I no longer have the annoying vibrations related to running studs. After 2000 miles last season, I've got no chewed up idler wheels. I've replaced all my idler wheels twice in 3000 miles on my last track with studs. So far, I'm impressed with this prestudded track.

 

[spddmon]

Personally,I dont think the single ply would balloon any more then the 2ply track.
From my understanding, the single ply weighs quite a bit less then the 2 ply, so it would have less rotating weight to cause ballooning. JMO

there must be a reason that acticcat ditched the single ply on all performance models snowtec report was that the track balloning with studs was taking out coolers and bulkheads

 

[Sno-Xr]

Personally,I dont think the single ply would balloon any more then the 2ply track.
From my understanding, the single ply weighs quite a bit less then the 2 ply, so it would have less rotating weight to cause ballooning. JMO

there must be a reason that acticcat ditched the single ply on all performance models snowtec report was that the track balloning with studs was taking out coolers and bulkheads

Probably true.
But even with ballooning, the studs shouldnt hit the tunnel or exchangers with proper tunnel protectors.?!?

For the guys running the Ice attacks and Ice rippers, or which ever tracks have the studs in the lugs, what are your options when the studs wear down? Are they replacable, or do you use conventional studs when they wear down.