AKrider
TY 4 Stroke God
I raced the Valdez Mayor's Cup cross country race in Alaska last weekend and got to ride both a Pro-R and a Sno-Pro after the race. I was surprised by how much I really liked the Pro-R. It was not perfect, but it was so much more stable at high speed than my Nytro that it was very clear why the other racers could go faster than me. The front suspension worked great, very predictable and no bump steer. The rear suspension wasn't as impressive, the center shock bottomed out hard enough to hurt my feet twice, but the preload was not set up to my weight or riding style so I know it could have been better. Plus, since the Rush won the Iron Dog, I know it can be made to work. Also, a young kid won the semi-pro class in our race on a Rush/Pro-R.
The rear part of the skid is pretty cool, it does feel bottomless, in fact what impressed me was how the sled stroked through its travel. It reminded me of a desert truck, basically felt like I was suspended in the middle part of the shock travel.
I liked the ergos of the Rush and all in all, it just felt like a very comfortable sled to go fast on. My Nytro has never given me a feeling of confidence at high speed. I noticed on one rough section of the course going around a big sweeper I was going around 10 mph faster on the Rush than I was able to go on my Nytro.
I also got to ride Chad Gueco's Sno-Pro and his sled is amazing! He won the Pro class and I rode it on the same section of the course as I did the Rush. Two completely different sleds and Chad's machine was set up perfect for him. I never bottomed the front Fox Evols even after hit some really deep holes that I could have never hit at the same speed on my Nytro. The rear skid worked great and I noticed the lightness of his sled when I got a little crossed up in some whoops. Very nice to be able to throw a light sled around in the air to correct it.
The Sno-pro feels smaller than the Rush and it didn't have any suspension issues. I've come away from this experience discovering that my Nytro is holding me back. My Nytro is a very dependable machine and I like it, but in my opinion it just isn't competitive in cross country racing with the new sleds. It's really too bad that Yamaha quit developing the Nytro. I have a feeling they are going to lose even more sales once people start riding the new Cat F1100.
I think I'll install a longer track on my Nytro and use it for a play sled in the mountains. I'm now seriously going to look at buying either a Sno-Pro or a Rush for racing. I'm sold on 4-strokes but you've got to have a competitive chassis to keep up with the other guys. I think the Nytro could be updated to do this, but the modifications to do it are beyond what a grassroots racer is able to do dollar wise since you'd be into custom designing parts like a totally new front end. So... like pretty much everyone else who raced the Nytro has discovered, its just easier, cheaper and more sensible to ride something else.
Here is the link to the Mayor's Cup race www.valdezsnow.com
The rear part of the skid is pretty cool, it does feel bottomless, in fact what impressed me was how the sled stroked through its travel. It reminded me of a desert truck, basically felt like I was suspended in the middle part of the shock travel.
I liked the ergos of the Rush and all in all, it just felt like a very comfortable sled to go fast on. My Nytro has never given me a feeling of confidence at high speed. I noticed on one rough section of the course going around a big sweeper I was going around 10 mph faster on the Rush than I was able to go on my Nytro.
I also got to ride Chad Gueco's Sno-Pro and his sled is amazing! He won the Pro class and I rode it on the same section of the course as I did the Rush. Two completely different sleds and Chad's machine was set up perfect for him. I never bottomed the front Fox Evols even after hit some really deep holes that I could have never hit at the same speed on my Nytro. The rear skid worked great and I noticed the lightness of his sled when I got a little crossed up in some whoops. Very nice to be able to throw a light sled around in the air to correct it.
The Sno-pro feels smaller than the Rush and it didn't have any suspension issues. I've come away from this experience discovering that my Nytro is holding me back. My Nytro is a very dependable machine and I like it, but in my opinion it just isn't competitive in cross country racing with the new sleds. It's really too bad that Yamaha quit developing the Nytro. I have a feeling they are going to lose even more sales once people start riding the new Cat F1100.
I think I'll install a longer track on my Nytro and use it for a play sled in the mountains. I'm now seriously going to look at buying either a Sno-Pro or a Rush for racing. I'm sold on 4-strokes but you've got to have a competitive chassis to keep up with the other guys. I think the Nytro could be updated to do this, but the modifications to do it are beyond what a grassroots racer is able to do dollar wise since you'd be into custom designing parts like a totally new front end. So... like pretty much everyone else who raced the Nytro has discovered, its just easier, cheaper and more sensible to ride something else.
Here is the link to the Mayor's Cup race www.valdezsnow.com
NFLD-Nytro
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
Good review, and just another eample of why the Nytro is not really the ditch-banger that some people think it is. A good rough trail sled, but just not predictable enough in the really big stuff.
sk-rx1
TY 4 Stroke Guru
I have been told that Yamaha has a much revised Nytro that was supposed to be tested in the cross country races then released as a 2012. But they decided that we did not need it. I do agree that they have significant chassis shortcomings that is/will cost more sales. They don't seem too concermed, at least not enough to do anything about it.
sleddingfarmer
TY 4 Stroke God
Good review. Thats why I sold my nytro, and went back to Doo.
AKrider
TY 4 Stroke God
I wonder why my review was moved to an obscure section of this forum?
AKrider
TY 4 Stroke God
Actually tell you what... I'm going to delete it and people can continue to live life with their blue blinders.
sleddingfarmer
TY 4 Stroke God
This "head to head" section is for chatting about the other manufacturers, like the pro-r and sno pro...So technically this is probably where it belongs.
Its a good review non the less, for anyone thinking about a nytro vs the competition and especially for CC racing
Its a good review non the less, for anyone thinking about a nytro vs the competition and especially for CC racing
rindtj
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
Agreed, I think they are trying to make this section a true head to head- with any comparison's between brands being placed here. Trust me this section is quickly becoming very popular- no one is trying to hide the fact that you enjoyed Poo or the Cat.....
AKrider
TY 4 Stroke God
You guys are right, I'll leave it. I'd just never heard of this sub forum before.
I should add that my Nytro felt much more powerful than the Rush. The Polaris felt like a dog, but that could have been the track. I ran a 1.25" track with studs and I'm not sure if the Rush had an aggressive track? It was studded, but the motor felt weak. But, I know they produce plenty of speed since I watched quite a few of them pass me.
The Sno-Pro was powerful and very snappy. Totally different power than the 4-strokes I'm so used to, but it flat out moved.
Still, I prefer the 4-stroke as I don't worry about it burning down or letting go on a high speed, WFO run across miles of lake or a long straight away. But, after I rode the Rush & Sno-Pro, the extra weight on my Nytro was readily apparent. My Nytro felt top heavy and clumsy in the whoops and has a weird tendency to bounce side to side through the rough while the other two sleds just tracked straight through.
If the new Pro-Cross 1100 is as good as I've read about, the Nytro basically lost its market the only 4-stroke bump sled.
I should add that my Nytro felt much more powerful than the Rush. The Polaris felt like a dog, but that could have been the track. I ran a 1.25" track with studs and I'm not sure if the Rush had an aggressive track? It was studded, but the motor felt weak. But, I know they produce plenty of speed since I watched quite a few of them pass me.
The Sno-Pro was powerful and very snappy. Totally different power than the 4-strokes I'm so used to, but it flat out moved.
Still, I prefer the 4-stroke as I don't worry about it burning down or letting go on a high speed, WFO run across miles of lake or a long straight away. But, after I rode the Rush & Sno-Pro, the extra weight on my Nytro was readily apparent. My Nytro felt top heavy and clumsy in the whoops and has a weird tendency to bounce side to side through the rough while the other two sleds just tracked straight through.
If the new Pro-Cross 1100 is as good as I've read about, the Nytro basically lost its market the only 4-stroke bump sled.
09nytro
TY 4 Stroke God
Get the pol been on them for years intill i got this nytro in 09 .. the polaris is a very nice sled that fusion was junk never handled very good
AKrider
TY 4 Stroke God
I've narrowed my choices down to the Rush/Pro-R or the Cat F-1100. I'm curious to see how much Arctic Cat will be pushing the F-1100. Since they don't offer a consumer 600, racers either need to run a Sno-Pro 600 or the 1100. The Sno-Pro 600 probably won't be the sled of choice for the Iron Dog. Most everyone runs the F6. For regular XC races, the Sno-Pro works great, but i've learned the engine requires more maintenance than what I want to deal with.
The Polaris Rush is appealing since its a known quantity and can run on pump gas. I can't seem to find many ride reports about the F-1100. I read one article where they said it pushed in the corners.
The Polaris Rush is appealing since its a known quantity and can run on pump gas. I can't seem to find many ride reports about the F-1100. I read one article where they said it pushed in the corners.
