TC,
Sorry for hijacking your thread. Are any of these comments helping.
LB,
We should continue this elsewhere so TC can finish making her decision. Thank you for the offer to go ride with you but flat land bores me. I have all the powder I could ask for right here and I have mountains to boot. If I want to ride powder that is flat I just go across the street and play in the field.
Sorry for hijacking your thread. Are any of these comments helping.
LB,
We should continue this elsewhere so TC can finish making her decision. Thank you for the offer to go ride with you but flat land bores me. I have all the powder I could ask for right here and I have mountains to boot. If I want to ride powder that is flat I just go across the street and play in the field.
Like long lost brothers fighting again :lol: LB Sprays right the invitation is always open leaving the 10th Feb this year and the wife is already talking next year so who knows keep in touch.
TC I don't weigh much more than you do 140 wet and dressed :lol: The sled is great, it's smooth, powerful, but it is a little top heavy for us light folk, mines a shorty however and I don't know yet if the long track is the same way or not ski's and other tweaks will make it handle better for you i'm sure. But it will still be a lot for you to handle on the mountains if your into the deep stuff. If your up for a challenge I say go for it, if you just want something to play with once in a while I'd find something a little lighter. This is an awesome sled and I'd do anything to promote it but it even throws me around on occasion
and thats just on the flat twisty stuff :lol: I would'nt trade mine for the world (well maybe a new one) it's the most fun i've ever had with any of my toy's. You think about it and do whats right for you. And have fun
Steve
alias Gramps
TC I don't weigh much more than you do 140 wet and dressed :lol: The sled is great, it's smooth, powerful, but it is a little top heavy for us light folk, mines a shorty however and I don't know yet if the long track is the same way or not ski's and other tweaks will make it handle better for you i'm sure. But it will still be a lot for you to handle on the mountains if your into the deep stuff. If your up for a challenge I say go for it, if you just want something to play with once in a while I'd find something a little lighter. This is an awesome sled and I'd do anything to promote it but it even throws me around on occasion
and thats just on the flat twisty stuff :lol: I would'nt trade mine for the world (well maybe a new one) it's the most fun i've ever had with any of my toy's. You think about it and do whats right for you. And have fun Steve
alias Gramps
AnnieB
Newbie
Hi TC!
I love my RX1 Mountain but it's definitely been a challenge for me to learn to ride in the deep stuff. I weigh a few pounds more than you but I'm finding that it's just taking time on the sled to feel more comfortable.
If you have a great group of friends, like I do, who don't mind helping you dig out occasionally I'd say go for it. What I've found is it's not always about how much muscle or weight you have but the fine art of finese and how much throttle you're willing to use in a tight spot.
Having said this, yes, I am noticing muscles in places I didn't think I had muscles! It's still a good workout no matter what.
Hopefully you have other sleds you can try before you buy one.
FYI - Klim gear is the driest, best gear I've ever used. I highly recommend it. Nice not to get a wet butt!
I love my RX1 Mountain but it's definitely been a challenge for me to learn to ride in the deep stuff. I weigh a few pounds more than you but I'm finding that it's just taking time on the sled to feel more comfortable.
If you have a great group of friends, like I do, who don't mind helping you dig out occasionally I'd say go for it. What I've found is it's not always about how much muscle or weight you have but the fine art of finese and how much throttle you're willing to use in a tight spot.
Having said this, yes, I am noticing muscles in places I didn't think I had muscles! It's still a good workout no matter what.
Hopefully you have other sleds you can try before you buy one.
FYI - Klim gear is the driest, best gear I've ever used. I highly recommend it. Nice not to get a wet butt!
Kachess
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
BS on your BS. You're right. Of course a 2in 121 won't take you anywhere a 2in 151 will, but it will take a 137lb women anywhere they want to go. A small person without alot of upper body strength will be dumping a stock rx1 mountain all over the hill. It's way too heavy, narrow, and top heavy for a small person to easily handle. Actually I have a buddy who bought his wife one last year. He wanted her to have electric start. She hates it. The sled hasn't even made it through break in. Next.....Yamaha may claim 580lbs, but my stock, totally empty, RX1 mountain tipped the scales at 637lbs. My Arctic cat 660 weighs 560lbs, for real. The turbo is probably a true 580lbs, 585lbs with a 2 in track. To me 50lbs is like a ton on a mountain sled. I love my slimmed down RX1, but I would'nt wish a stock one on my wife.
I'm calling BS on your BS of my BS of your BS.
First you are not weighing a dry RX-1 at 637 lbs. You are weighing a wet sled with no gas. Unless of course you are going to tell me that you drained ALL of the oil, ALL of the water, emptied the shocks etc.....
Second, to be picky, the 04 RX's are about 5 lbs lighter.
Third, You are comparing 151 RX to a 121 cat. Maybe you should be looking at a 121 RX for an apples to apples comparison.
Fourth, you say you weighed your 2003 cat and it only weighed 560 lbs. I am assuming that is semi wet again. I just don't see that as being even remotely close. Arctic Cat lists the 2003 660 as 610 lbs dry. So what you are trying to convince me of is that cat weighed the sled dry and there scale said 610 lbs. Then you turned around and weighed it semi wet and your scale said only 560 lbs. You beleive your scale to be the correct one. I do not. The other posibility is that Cat knows the sled only ways 560 semi wet but they are trying to lie to us and tell us it weighs even more at 610. I can assure you that NO manufacturer has ever tried to lie and convince the public that their sled weighs more than it really does.
Lastly. Have you ridden the turboed cat? Do you REALLY think it has enough lowend power to survive in the mountains? Don't get me wrong I think that little cat is a GREAT machine, but it is not a mountain sled. It lacks any hint of lowend power among many other missing elements. It is a great trail machine though. It is quiet, good on gas, has a smotth ride, and once it gets going it has a reasonable trail cruising speed.
First you are not weighing a dry RX-1 at 637 lbs. You are weighing a wet sled with no gas. Unless of course you are going to tell me that you drained ALL of the oil, ALL of the water, emptied the shocks etc.....
Second, to be picky, the 04 RX's are about 5 lbs lighter.
Third, You are comparing 151 RX to a 121 cat. Maybe you should be looking at a 121 RX for an apples to apples comparison.
Fourth, you say you weighed your 2003 cat and it only weighed 560 lbs. I am assuming that is semi wet again. I just don't see that as being even remotely close. Arctic Cat lists the 2003 660 as 610 lbs dry. So what you are trying to convince me of is that cat weighed the sled dry and there scale said 610 lbs. Then you turned around and weighed it semi wet and your scale said only 560 lbs. You beleive your scale to be the correct one. I do not. The other posibility is that Cat knows the sled only ways 560 semi wet but they are trying to lie to us and tell us it weighs even more at 610. I can assure you that NO manufacturer has ever tried to lie and convince the public that their sled weighs more than it really does.
Lastly. Have you ridden the turboed cat? Do you REALLY think it has enough lowend power to survive in the mountains? Don't get me wrong I think that little cat is a GREAT machine, but it is not a mountain sled. It lacks any hint of lowend power among many other missing elements. It is a great trail machine though. It is quiet, good on gas, has a smotth ride, and once it gets going it has a reasonable trail cruising speed.
tc
Newbie
spray25 said:
Don't worry about it, I'm having fun listening to the conversation!
And yes, the comments are helping. I still love the RX1 but we are beginning to think that we should rent some heavier sleds first. I'd be in a better position to decide once I've ridden more of them and logged some miles.
I hope riding them is a better tired that shopping for them!
tc (teresa)
tc
Newbie
Well,
We have talked to a lot of people about this. . . groups, dealers, and renters, and guess what?
It is an even split. Opponents say it's way too heavy for smaller people and thus hard to control. Proponents say skill compensates for this.
So it all boils down to whether or not I have the skills (and the confidence) to drive this beast. At this point, I'll have to say no, but my next sled . . . :twisted:
Thank you all for your input.
tc
We have talked to a lot of people about this. . . groups, dealers, and renters, and guess what?
It is an even split. Opponents say it's way too heavy for smaller people and thus hard to control. Proponents say skill compensates for this.
So it all boils down to whether or not I have the skills (and the confidence) to drive this beast. At this point, I'll have to say no, but my next sled . . . :twisted:
Thank you all for your input.
tc
Kachess
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
You're right. I didn't weight the sleds "dry". I weighed them without gas. My 2003 Cat is a short track trail version and I weighed it with the same scale I used on my RX1. I think the touring version is 610. I haven't ridden a turbo and it may lack low end torque macking it a poor mountain sled. A short track RX1 with a agressive track may be a better comparison. But I think she's made her mind up...............kind of.
You guys getting all this rain?
You guys getting all this rain?
AnnieB
Newbie
Hey Kachess,
Too bad your friend's wife didn't spend at least the break in time getting used to the sled. I didn't like to go more than 25-30 miles an hour (sad but true!). The break in time let me get used to the sled at slower speeds.
I greatly appreciate going much faster now. If I hadn't been so determined to get through those first miles I would probably have hated my sled too! I have almost 1000 miles on since early November.
Every day I experience a difficult situation, but you know, the rest of the day is pure fun!
Too bad your friend's wife didn't spend at least the break in time getting used to the sled. I didn't like to go more than 25-30 miles an hour (sad but true!). The break in time let me get used to the sled at slower speeds.
I greatly appreciate going much faster now. If I hadn't been so determined to get through those first miles I would probably have hated my sled too! I have almost 1000 miles on since early November.
Every day I experience a difficult situation, but you know, the rest of the day is pure fun!
mwyeth
Extreme
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Last year I was on a trip and met a man on a silver03 mountain that was paralyzed from the waist down that rode his sled so well that I didn't know he was paralyzed! He wasn't very big either 160 pounds at the most. So my two cents is that this sled is a very good sled for anyone!!!
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