Ski Stance

[MNBlizzard]

Interesting project...keep us posted on the feedback/testing. The upper heim joint looks pretty high. Is that necessary for new camber or the move forward?

 

[fxnytrortxkid]

Thought u had a mount that changed shock mount at top for mountain setup?

 

[Mountaintech]

Nice! is that the 43" with +2 forward? With your setup how is the upper balljoint spacer thickness determined and how does it enhance performance? A few years back I played around with an offset that spaced the balljoint away from the spindle and also allowed for minor caster/camber adjustments. I went as far as a 1" spacer but really didn't know what I was looking for and was concerned with the strength of the offset and putting to much stress on the spindle so I abandoned the idea.

Yes, 43" +2". The spacer changes the camber gain as the suspension compresses. The spacer in the pic is longer than the one I will use.

 

[Mountaintech]

Thought u had a mount that changed shock mount at top for mountain setup?

Made a change to the upper mount. The other version had some shock stroke misalignment. OK if you had spherical ends, but not for stock shocks.

 

[srx900]

shock mounts

does anyone notice that the lower shock mounts are somewhat inside on the nitro does this have anything to do with the poor handling? If you look at the race front the lower shock mounts where moved outside futher. has anyone tested the race suspension and does it handle that much better. if there is any play in the shock bolts it would be multiplied and make the sled roll more on initial turn entry.

 

[Mountaintech]

Interesting project...keep us posted on the feedback/testing. The upper heim joint looks pretty high. Is that necessary for new camber or the move forward?

The upper heim joint has to be moved up, essentially making a taller spindle. One big problem with the Nytro front end is that the distance between the lower and upper heim is too short. Because of the way the control arms are mounted in the subframe, this creates a suspension that decreases camber as suspension compresses.

 

[Jakelfin]

The upper heim joint has to be moved up, essentially making a taller spindle. One big problem with the Nytro front end is that the distance between the lower and upper heim is too short. Because of the way the control arms are mounted in the subframe, this creates a suspension that decreases camber as suspension compresses.

I made same kind of notifications when building my new front end. I think the best way to solve with nytro front would be completely new front end. I just ended to make some compromises and I think I can live with it.



Good luck with your project!

does anyone notice that the lower shock mounts are somewhat inside on the nitro does this have anything to do with the poor handling? If you look at the race front the lower shock mounts where moved outside futher. has anyone tested the race suspension and does it handle that much better. if there is any play in the shock bolts it would be multiplied and make the sled roll more on initial turn entry.

I think it is not the reason. In europe, we have lynx, made in Finland. Used to have that kind of front end in the beginning of 80's. Like here, excellent in ruff trails.

I think you get the picture if you watch some videos from the BrpFinland channel..

 

[Mountaintech]

Can anyone tell me how wide the sway bar is on a short track? They are 21" wide on the older MTXs.

 

[nytrozula]

I just installed the Zbroz +1 along with the Star relocate and it has made a huge improvement on handling on trail. This is by far the best improvement I have done to the sled yet. I rode 500 miles at the TY ride over the weekend on this setup and experienced very, very little inside ski lift. Ski lift was the norm on the old setup.

 

[grizztracks]

Can anyone tell me how wide the sway bar is on a short track? They are 21" wide on the older MTXs.

On my 2008 RTX I measured the swaybar at the links and got 20 7/8"

 

[Mountaintech]

Grizz, Thanks, exactly what I needed to know.

 

[rrxx-1]

Can anyone tell me how wide the sway bar is on a short track? They are 21" wide on the older MTXs.

On my 2008 RTX I measured the swaybar at the links and got 20 7/8"

FYI That measurement is the center to center of the swaybar ends. I just checked it on mine also.
Outside to outside of sway bar is 21 1/8", this is where the swaybar links bolt on.

 

[Mountaintech]

Can anyone tell me how wide the sway bar is on a short track? They are 21" wide on the older MTXs.

On my 2008 RTX I measured the swaybar at the links and got 20 7/8"

FYI That measurement is the center to center of the swaybar ends. I just checked it on mine also.
Outside to outside of sway bar is 21 1/8", this is where the swaybar links bolt on.

Thanks for the info guys. Just wanting to make sure that the prototype 43" arms that I'm building will fit the short track sway bars.

 

[Mountaintech]

First set of 43"+2" arms.