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Rockmeister said:
Actually the wire harness you are referencing was included with new bars that were intended to be wired in parallel.

Using the harness with the series bars will seriously risk the stator.

The new ones are all wired in parallel.

I hate to disagree but the ECU in these sleds are programmed to cut down power to non-essential accessories when required. When idling, it cuts power to the front grips for a reason. If the fan kicks in, which is a big power draw, it needs every watt it can get. I noticed on my sled that it turns off power to the rear warmers when the fan comes on. In fact, I believe that bypassing these safeguards and sending full power all the time to the grips could kill the battery while idling.

As far as putting the stator at risk, that is false. The typical pair of warmers draw about 36W in parallel. In series, it would be half that. I doubt very much that an extra 18W will melt down a stator.
 
Mooseman said:
Rockmeister said:
Actually the wire harness you are referencing was included with new bars that were intended to be wired in parallel.

Using the harness with the series bars will seriously risk the stator.

The new ones are all wired in parallel.

I hate to disagree but the ECU in these sleds are programmed to cut down power to non-essential accessories when required. When idling, it cuts power to the front grips for a reason. If the fan kicks in, which is a big power draw, it needs every watt it can get. I noticed on my sled that it turns off power to the rear warmers when the fan comes on. In fact, I believe that bypassing these safeguards and sending full power all the time to the grips could kill the battery while idling.

As far as putting the stator at risk, that is false. The typical pair of warmers draw about 36W in parallel. In series, it would be half that. I doubt very much that an extra 18W will melt down a stator.

Running the battery down would be true, IF:
IF: You let the sled idle for quite a long time AND it wasn't charging. (Both would have to happen.)
However, The sled will shut itself off, or you will ride it, and get the RPMs up, long before that happens.

You put the stator at SERIOUS risk by overloading it.
(How did you come by the statement you made that this fact was false?)
(Overloading anything can kill it.)

The bar mod using the early bars sets them up so that they can draw almost 15A, or 206 WATTS. (Not just 18w)
The stator has a safety margin of roughly 2A, MUCH LESS than the 15A possible draw just for the grips with this mod.
Because the way the math works out, you end up with 1/4 the resistance you should have, and therefore 4 times the power draw.
The is WAYYYY beyond what the stator can provide.

The stator will slowly cook & finally die, if you try to draw that much current.
That is how electrical windings work, they will keep working as hard as they can right up until they fail.
(That is why overload heaters are required on electric motors.)
 


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