MarkRTX
Expert
Ulmer, I'm wondering about your stage 2 kit. Currently I have the Woodys performance power-up kit which has the following mods- 23 top gear, 3 degree timing key, OD sheave in primary, silver secondary spring. Has stock weights and primary spring and stock helix. What I'm wondering is how will your kit perform with the OD and 3 degree key? I've heard these two mods actually hurt performance what are your thoughts? Also I ride mostly groomed trails and 90% of the time I'm riding very aggresively. To the bar or close to it from corner to corner and to the bar on the flat out straights. I weigh approx. 235 lbs dressed. What can I expect for added performance? My buddy has the same setup and most of the time he beats me on hole shot due to more experience and around 20 -30 lbs lighter but I want to put him down without revealing my secrets. I have messed with a different spring (white) at 60 in my secondary but when I changed my belt to the new Yamaha belt my revs went past 11000 so I went back to the silver at 80. I saw 121 DM and 108 gps on plowed icey road this past weekend in Maine. Right now my revs are in the target area of 10700-10900. Will the supertips improve by pull in the bottom and mid or can I expect better performance throughout?? I just turned over 5100 miles so everything is well broken in. Thanks for your reply Mark
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MarkRTX said:Ulmer, I'm wondering about your stage 2 kit. Currently I have the Woodys performance power-up kit which has the following mods- 23 top gear, 3 degree timing key, OD sheave in primary, silver secondary spring. Has stock weights and primary spring and stock helix. What I'm wondering is how will your kit perform with the OD and 3 degree key? I've heard these two mods actually hurt performance what are your thoughts? Also I ride mostly groomed trails and 90% of the time I'm riding very aggresively. To the bar or close to it from corner to corner and to the bar on the flat out straights. I weigh approx. 235 lbs dressed. What can I expect for added performance? My buddy has the same setup and most of the time he beats me on hole shot due to more experience and around 20 -30 lbs lighter but I want to put him down without revealing my secrets. I have messed with a different spring (white) at 60 in my secondary but when I changed my belt to the new Yamaha belt my revs went past 11000 so I went back to the silver at 80. I saw 121 DM and 108 gps on plowed icey road this past weekend in Maine. Right now my revs are in the target area of 10700-10900. Will the supertips improve by pull in the bottom and mid or can I expect better performance throughout?? I just turned over 5100 miles so everything is well broken in. Thanks for your reply Mark
I have only worked with the OD sheave once and will not recommend it again. I have only done one setup using the 3 degree key in it also. It was "olcountry" on here whose sled we setup here after it had the Hauck Git-R-Dun kit on it (which included 3 degree key & OD sheave).
olcountry said:I will tell you my story and you can take it from there___ in the spring of 06 I snow checked an 07 RTX er with Pat Hauck (quite the salesman) I told him I wanted a 1" track with 144 studs, a good clutch set up, his pipe, a fuel excellerator, K & N's, 3 degree advanced timing, he than talked me into his speed sheave and an autostart.
In october of 06 I drove from North East North Dakota to Rice Lake Wisconsin (15 hours round trip, booken it) I waited for snow and began to ride. In the mean time I found this site and found out I should have just left well enough alone, Why?
My sled was loud way to friggen loud (up Front K & N's) the pipe sounded awsome but over all the sled was way off of what I expected, every once in a while It would decide not to run right, it would spit and sputter and run like crap,.
When the season ended I had 575 miles on it and was not a Happy Camper. Tried to talk with Pat now and then and all he could say was "bring it back down and I will ride it".
<<fast forward>>
Last summer I made a phone call to Allan Ulmer and we made arrangements to get my sled to South Dakota, I sent with Him My goals and what I wanted to achieve and left the rest up to him.
I wanted:
-top end
-my airbox back
-a fuel controller that worked
-kept my pipe
-smoked medium windshield
-and all suspension and every nut and bolt checked over
Now let me say, He is the best at what he does and he is a top notch buisiness man on top of everything else THE BEST hands down.
My 07 RTX is like in his words "Bang on" it has:
-stage three clutching (23 top gear and 70 link chain)
-fuel controller
-his air box mod ( way quieter)
-hauck pipe (sounds unreal)
and this sled just flat out hauls A$$ on a hard groomed trail I have been up against everything from a very fast modded F7 (brothers) a new 800 R Skidoo and held my own real well.
now this all cost me time and money and the lesson has been well learned but I am 42 years old and have been riding since 1974 and I can not even ride another sled and have fun, I dont even care if I am the fastest sled I just know I love the way mine is set up it is once again Bang on.
Oh and by the way if you own a 4 stroke sled you need to puchase a ProHonda Optimate battery charger and just leave it hooked up when not riding it, you will never foul a plug or have a starting issue.
Thanks again to this web site and The Ulmers, I am a Happy Camper!
With the Super Tips we can load the inner position and have it give a better holeshot but it will depend on traction & the conditions you are running in (which you didn't really mention what you're running for track & studs).
Allen
MarkRTX
Expert
Sorry Allen for not providing all the information. I have the stock track with 144 studs throughout the track. I ride mostly groomed trails in Maine and ride 90% of the time very aggresive. IE to the bar from corner to corner and flat out on the straights. My best top so far is with a pocket gps is 108 gps around 120-122 DM. I have talked also with a local tuner who races a turbo RX-1 and he said the first thing I need to do is loss the OD sheave and timing key and put it back to stock other than the 23 gearing. I weigh around 235 dressed. I hope this answers more for you. I wish I would have done more research before I went with this setup but live and learn Thanks again Mark
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