Starter operating in reverse??

[Cold Concrete]

Hey All,

I've reached out on other topics and appreciate the huge amount of knowledge and experience that's shared on this site. With that, I'm having starter issues with my 2007 Phazer. I had the front end off and removed the starter that was not functioning due to the bolts loosening up and the case no longer being indexed. I removed the starter, reindexed (I think), retorqued the bolts after adding red Locktite reinstalled it and the front end. It turned over very slowly but then would stop after 2 seconds. I removed the stater again (cut the case this time) and it bench tests just fine so I reinstalled and the same thing occurs, it turns over slowly for 2 seconds then nothing. Could the starter be operating in reverse? Is the starter simply shot now? Any thoughts on the reindexing?

I don't want to buy a new starter until I can confirm that is the problem.

Thank You!!

 

[Yamajon1]

If it bench tests fine I would be checking all the connections from the battery to the starter and don't forget the ground connections.

 

[Cold Concrete]

All electrical connections are good; relay, new battery, ground, etc. Assuming the positive and negative are attached correctly, can anyone confirm which way the starter spins? Is it possible that during reindexing the starter now operates in reverse?

 

[Yamajon1]

Look at the clutch when trying to turn it over to see if it’s going the right way. Don’t turn it over long just tap it in case it is trying to go backwards. You don’t want to crank a four stroke backwards. How did you check the connections? Best to do a voltage drop test. You will need a Volt meter to do that. You can google it if you don’t know how.

 

[cannondale27]

When it spins in reverse you will hear nothing but a whirring sound because the one-way bearing only will allow starter to turn motor over in correct direction. I would first remove the spark plugs. You may have alot of gas in cylinders. This will make it turn over slow. Then do a voltage drop test while cranking. Only proper way to check battery. Wouldnt be first new battery I have seen be shot.

 

[Cold Concrete]

Thanks Cannondale. It was not whirring so it must be turning in the right direction, however I can spin the motor easy enough by turning the primary clutch by hand. I'll take the plugs out (was hoping not to have to disassemble the plastics again) and reinstall the starter.

Is the best place to test voltage drop at the starter itself?

 

[cannondale27]

Thanks Cannondale. It was not whirring so it must be turning in the right direction, however I can spin the motor easy enough by turning the primary clutch by hand. I'll take the plugs out (was hoping not to have to disassemble the plastics again) and reinstall the starter.

Is the best place to test voltage drop at the starter itself?

Both at battery and at starter. that would tell you if wiring or connections were bad. Should almost be the same but should not drop to less than 11 volts with a decent battery. Could also take battery to Autozone or a dealer and they should test it for free with a load tester.

 

[kallholmen]

Ground connection for sure.