Steering help

[briane]

Love my 2015 LTX SE but it likes to push in the corners. All stock. 137". Stock skis. 4"'carbide. No studs. Limiter strap is up 2 holes. Front float shocks at 70 psi. Here's the question. Will 6" carbide help get rid of the push? Is that too much carbide without studs?

 

[Joe ltx-le]

I have a 16 ltx. I put all four 6 inch square bars on for carbides. My sled does not push at all!! It's too much, this season I'm going to try 4 on the outside and the 6 on the inside.

Your shocks perform totally different then mine. But I can tell you , the push can be solved.

 

[alexm2816]

The secret my friend, is to wait until January when there is snow!

There are some FAQ's on setting up the LTX. It's very ski heavy out of the box. Limiter straps, coupler blocks, shock pressure (for the SE and LE guys *pinkies up*), and carbide choice all couple together with rider weight and position.

At 230 lbs in gear I find that the 6" squares and a 4" set of woody's trail carbides handle me and my 96 studs well on the factory ripsaw. Limiter strap is one tighter, and I increased preload on the front (coil overs so not much help). Push is gone and I feel like i'm on rails. I'd imagine I would struggle in the deep as the front end is planted hard but I very much prefer it that way. Considering playing with the sway bar a bit this year as I am a very active trail rider and there has been some success from guys with that.

Good luck!

 

[briane]

I have a 16 ltx. I put all four 6 inch square bars on for carbides. My sled does not push at all!! It's too much, this season I'm going to try 4 on the outside and the 6 on the inside.

Your shocks perform totally different then mine. But I can tell you , the push can be solved.

Again, I don't plan on ever studding the track. I'll be trying the same, 4" carbide outside, 6"inside. Hopefully it helps. My last sled was a Rev so im used to that twitchy, over-responsive steering. Thanks

 

[Allan]

I had 4" carbide outside, 6" square inside. last year on my stx dx 146 and found it excellent. Everything was stock.

 

[Muffin]

I've given up on stock skis.

Aftermarket skis, like curves or my favorite, C & A Razors are the way to go. Put Slim Jim Doolies under them and you'll have sharp steering in almost all conditions with very little extra steering effort.

 

[briane]

Thanks all for the input. I'm going to try the 75$ carbides first before I drop $500 on new skis. The push isn't terrible, I just need it a little better.

 

[jpothof]

I'd also play with your front rear shock. Take out some pre-load so you transfer more weight to the skis when you let off the throttle. More ski pressure going into the turn can help a lot with push. The trade off will be more effort required of you to turn. There is a sweet spot in there. I think I had 11 or 14 threads showing but mine was an XTX. I switched out to Mohawks which are better and put a heavier spring in the shock but the tuners can be made to work satisfactory.


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[murdered141]

With proper ski pressure, the 4"-6" combo works great with the tunners, but I am running the 1.6 ice cobra also, couldn't be happier

 

[RTX]

I'd also play with your front rear shock. Take out some pre-load so you transfer more weight to the skis when you let off the throttle. More ski pressure going into the turn can help a lot with push. The trade off will be more effort required of you to turn. There is a sweet spot in there. I think I had 11 or 14 threads showing but mine was an XTX. I switched out to Mohawks which are better and put a heavier spring in the shock but the tuners can be made to work satisfactory.


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This is the correct answer.
You have to be willing to invest a little time in setting up the ski pressure by adjusting the skid front shock.
You cant just slap on skis or carbides and expect it to resolve the issues.
Good handeling Is all in the setup.

 

[briane]

This is the correct answer.
You have to be willing to invest a little time in setting up the ski pressure by adjusting the skid front shock.
You cant just slap on skis or carbides and expect it to resolve the issues.
Good handeling Is all in the setup.

I'm not trying to solve everything with skis and carbides. I spent the end of last season(350 miles) tuning the suspension, trying to get it to turn better with the stock 4" carbides. Even tried running the front skid spring with zero preload and the rear fully loaded. I felt a little more ski pressure but it still wouldn't get through the corners like I wanted .

 

[murdered141]

I'm not trying to solve everything with skis and carbid es. I spent the end of last season(350 miles) tuning the suspension, trying to get it to turn better with the stock 4" carbides. Even tried running the front skid spring with zero preload and the rear fully loaded. Still it pushed.

Stock carbide's suck #*$&@, they might work on a single keel ski, but not on the dual keel tunner's, they wear very quickly anyhow, the reason why they don't work is cause you have a bald bar on the outside and only 3" of carbide on the inside, don't care how much setup you try , it's not going to happen, 4" outside 6"inside is the answer on the tunner's.

 

[briane]

http://www.bergstromskegs.com/oui/tuner_skis.htm

I came across this interesting article about tuner skis...

 

[yamadoo]

Thanks all for the input. I'm going to try the 75$ carbides first before I drop $500 on new skis. The push isn't terrible, I just need it a little better.

You will like it, I do.

 

[mnman309]

I have the same sled, send your rear shocks to Cannondale for a re-valve and put on carbides and ride it! Best money spent is the re-valve!