Steering Slop

[equillibrium88]

I've been reading a lot on here about all the slop in the Phazer's steering system.
I myself have quite a bit on my sled, however I have always just managed to deal with it through ski alignments and riding adjustments. Next summer, I want to tackle that beotch, are there any suggestions as to how I go about doing this?
I don't have the skill level to disassemble the whole sled. I cannot take out the engine, but removing the airbox, gas tank and subframe are all things I have done. I do have the service manual in PDF files on my PC.

I also don't quite understand the ovalling of the ski mounts.
I have Slydog trail hounds on my sled, the bolt they came with fits into the hole on my spindles quite nicely. When I jack up the front end and pull on the ski laterally and vertically there is very little movement, so then how would it oval unless the bolt you used was too small or the bushing in the spindle is too soft or worn...or is that the problem people are having.

 

[cannondale27]

Yes that is exactly the spindle problem people have.There is some real nice how to's on steering slop and it takes a combination of all of them to get it right.Absolutely necessary? No. The slop really isnt noticed much when riding. But the wear only gets worse.

 

[Mooseman]

Get a hold of Up Bushman for spindle and steering bushings.

http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php? ... highlight=
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php? ... highlight=

Also check the FAQ sticky for some how-to's.

 

[xt_gt]

& front end bushings for the a-arms

 

[canoehead]

Yep definately worth the extra money if you're going to do Bushmans spacer mod on the steering quad do the oil lites and spindle bushing mods. For an extra few bucks you won't regret it..

 

[rocklong]

Bushmans steering and spindle kit really tightend my steering up! Great guy to work with too.

 

[Tbyrd]

"Bushmans steering and spindle kit really tightend my steering up! Great guy to work with too."

I agree!

 

[irish_redneck]

where do you get the bushings that compliment bushmans kits?

 

[yamahas]

Are you referring to the spindle kit? UP Bushman has 2 kits.

 

[irish_redneck]

Got both of them coming. Keep seeing people refering to other oilite bushings...

 

[BombaPolaYama]

The oilite bushings are for the A-arms and are available from a couple aftermarket places (Ulmer's is one) and Yamaha also carries them now. they replace the stock plastic bushings. There is also the steering block from OFT which helps with up and down movement in the steering.
The tierod ends and ball joints can also cause slop. Some of the balljoints were faulty early on - Yamaha replaced mine under warranty and the new set has lasted good.

 

[porkchop]

The oilite bushings are for the A-arms and are available from a couple aftermarket places (Ulmer's is one) and Yamaha also carries them now. they replace the stock plastic bushings.

Just did my A arms with oilites thru McMaster Carr and a 'lil machining from my work- $27

Ulmer's- $75......

 

[irish_redneck]

Sweet. When will you have mine ready?

 

[irish_redneck]

Sweet. When will you have mine ready?

 

[phaze5]

i named that problem yamaslop it can be seen on youtube lol