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Supercharging the Nytro

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Well, who is going this route and what brand blower are you going with? I am in Michigan and strongly looking into the MPI blower for my new trail sled.

I will put about 2,000 miles on each winter and just wondering the pros/cons of trail running a blower up to 6-8 thousand miles over a 3 year period?

Any feedback on dealings with MPI? How is their service and support?
 

im kinda thinking of doing this,but i need to find a place in the states who sells a nytro with a s/c installed ready to go,as with the strong canadian dollar it would be worth the drive.
 
Ditchbanger talk to Ulmer racing I bet they coudl supply all new S/C Nytro. If money was no object I would just place the call send some money and wait to pick it up!
 
right now in canada i have $14000 due when sled comes in..id rather go to the usa and pick up a s/c nytro..ready to go..maybe i will give allen a call later this week
 
MPI will be hands down the best way to go for trail riding.

Here are a few points to remember I have had both a turbo and SC. The turbo is faster always will be and better on fuel, the down side is heat and also getting coolant and oil to the turbo and also modified exhaust.

The SC may not always be slower but its usually a given. They also tend to use more fuel BUT the install is cleaner, and the exhaust remains stock. I have had now and speaking from my experience an MPI blower and a powderlites turbo, my turbo has been a nightmare melting everything and not running right. The MPI blower was bolt on and run no screwing around nothing shut the side panels and ride. In the end I can't make your decision but I highly suggest you call and speak to any company representitive from the different boost makers before buying.
 
i like the idea of the s/c as a bolt on with no drilling or modding,alot of people get there panties wadded up about who is faster..id be happy with 190-200 hp turn key and go..thnx for the post jamie..
 
No probs, the truth is the truth on these kits really. The turbo requires more to make the kit work, header exhaust, probably a hole in the tunnel to bring the charge tube though to the intercooler. The SC will be stock exhaust, and limited holes etc to be drilled or cutting to be made.
 
There are at least 2 companies offering a MID Mount turbo , these setups are gonna be sweet ! With a bigger gas tank too . I hope to have a synergy kit real soon, I'll be sure and taker lots of pictures of the install ,and give you guys some reports after I run it ;)!
 
SC may not always be slower but its usually a given
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turbo will be better on fuel
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The MPI Stage-II Nytro supercharger kit (C30-74 compressor) falls right between the MCX and a 28RS for compressor performance.

Turbo or Super:

Horsepower - Fuel Mileage - Throttle Response....it is all in the setup !!!

I hope to have a synergy kit real soon -- pictures of the install
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I'm interested in seeing pictures of the "patent pending -- nearly 100% efficient" intercooling system. It has to be using the action of the snow in the tunnel somehow to remove that much heat. If it is a liquid cooled type heat exchanger you would have the added pain of extra coolant, lines, pump, etc-etc. Sounds interesting though !!!
 
In my opinion the MC Xpress intercooler system would be as close to perfect as anyone could get, on the new nytro.
 
Isn't the super always going to be harder on fuel since its always spinning anyways?
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The Rotrex Supercharger is not a 6-71 roots blower...which is what the all the turbo websites online like to compare a turbos efficiency to. If you search totallyamaha you will see people claiming anywhere between 10mpg and 20mpg on STOCK sleds. That's a huge swing.

There are tons of variables consider in each of those cases...rider/conditions/setup.

A quick way to look at this is by the fuel flow rates. I pulled some from DynoTech. Yes the super is using more fuel at trail speed/rpm...but just barely...and I'm pretty sure it can be accounted for by the difference in air fuel ratios.

Apex 7000 RPM

Stock -- 41.7 lb/hr -- 9.69 AFR
Turbo -- 79.3 lb/hr -- 11.7 AFR
Super -- 81.7 lb/hr -- 9.91 AFR

Vector 6500 RPM

Stock -- 46.1 lb/hr -- 11.5 AFR
Turbo -- 85.6 lb/hr -- 9.88 AFR

Nytro 6800 RPM

Stock -- 49.6 lb/hr -- 12.5 AFR

Bottom line is....if you're making horsepower....you're burning fuel !!!
 
I would rather not ... and just so you know ... I don't sell anything ... I just play on the internet for entertainment ... annnnd since I'm your basic type "A" personality I like to post to keep the facts straight ... soooo I'm not really interested in spending my time on making anyone else money. If you have a bazillion questions on turbo or super kits I would suggest calling the manufacturers or dealers. Another option, for general information, would be to search this forum. You could also use the search function for my posts specifically just type HAMMER into the author block. I've put a lot of information out there and don't care much for repeating myself.
 
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