Thinking about..........jumping ship

[DooZ]

I have the 2019 Indy 850, and have been thinking about adding a srx to the lineup. The axys chassis is pretty awesome and I am concerned I’d be taking a step back going to the Yamaha. Thoughts?

I would think you would have the best of both worlds then. The power of the 998 is very addicting and the chassis isn't as bad as others here claim. I personally feel the cat/winder front end is the best in the business. The choice of two very different sleds to ride would be a cool problem to have.

 

[ClutchMaster]

I have the 2019 Indy 850, and have been thinking about adding a srx to the lineup. The axys chassis is pretty awesome and I am concerned I’d be taking a step back going to the Yamaha. Thoughts?

If you want to go fast in a straight line, like railroad beds the SRX is hard to beat. If you like a well handling reliable sled, yes waste of money. The 1” track is crap for looser snow conditions.
Super expensive computer controlled shocks that don’t work, Chinese bearings that fail, lots of durability issues for a sled this expensive! Really? Here read this customer service.....

https://ty4stroke.com/threads/yamaha-has-let-me-down.155993/

I guess it all depends the type of riding you do and if you have an extra sled to ride while yours is being fixed for a month.

 

[ClutchMaster]

I would think you would have the best of both worlds then. The power of the 998 is very addicting and the chassis isn't as bad as others here claim. I personally feel the cat/winder front end is the best in the business. The choice of two very different sleds to ride would be a cool problem to have.

It really isn’t even close to the Axis chassis. You really need to ride them back to back properly set up, then if you can say they aren’t that much different......well you just aren’t being realistic.

 

[Ekoehler]

If you want to go fast in a straight line, like railroad beds the SRX is hard to beat. If you like a well handling reliable sled, yes waste of money. The 1” track is crap for looser snow conditions.
Super expensive computer controlled shocks that don’t work, Chinese bearings that fail, lots of durability issues for a sled this expensive! Really? Here read this customer service.....

https://ty4stroke.com/threads/yamaha-has-let-me-down.155993/

I guess it all depends the type of riding you do and if you have an extra sled to ride while yours is being fixed for a month.

I ride in N. Wi and UP, lots of twisty trails in Wi and I try to avoid the railroad grades if at all possible.

 

[KnappAttack]

It really isn’t even close to the Axis chassis. You really need to ride them back to back properly set up, then if you can say they aren’t that much different......well you just aren’t being realistic.

Have a buddy that came off a line of 850 Doos and he loves his Axys. When will it blow or lock up is the question. Thus far it is faster than the Doo 850's after being broke in. Don't tell the 850 Doo guys that though, cause they have never been beat by one, ya right. Of course my Winder will flat leave it like its in reverse at any point. He claims the Axys goes 110 but I don't know how. He says I have 20-30 MPH on him when blasting away from him.

 

[snobill]

You might want a backup sled I have a few friends that ride poos and they say they won’t touch the 850s do the the engine blowing issues it has .

 

[SAB1]

I had the chance to ride a 2018 ProS this weekend and all I can say is wow! This thing handles on rails, and is Soooo much lighter than these viper/winder tanks. The bumps were nonexistent. The Only reason I’m still running this cat/yamaha chassis is the power levels.
Reliability seems good but I don’t know much about them.
All you naysayers ride one, then tell me I’m wrong.
Put a turbo on it and I would have one on order tomorrow!

Ill second that. Very nice ride. Couple of my buddies have them. Handling is incredible right out of the crate.

 

[Wannaviper]

There are lots of pluses (and minuses) to buying sleds from Polaris or Ski Doo, but the Pro Cross chassis handles better than any other snowmobile I have ever ridden. Granted, I rode my last Polaris back in 2011, so I guess I must have jumped ship before they discovered good handling. There is a legitimate argument that the Pro Cross front end is the best in the business according to some of the experts; I don't know if it is the best, but I know I really like it. The only thing wrong with the Yamaha front end is the Tuner skis that Yamaha puts on their sleds; they are a joke. I added Snow Trackers to my new Sidewinder, and it absolutely rails in the corners, and the steering is light and positive. (Leave it to Snow Tracker to make something out of nothing.) I have the LTX-DX with standard shocks, and it rides softer than my living room couch. Poo & Doo 2-strokes are undoubtedly lighter, and in many people's estimation, lighter equals better handling, but I am in my late 60's and I don't "throw" my sled around corners anymore, I "ride" it, and I like the solid feel of the heavier sled underneath me. For the past 8 years, I have been a died-in-the-wool 4-stroker, and I will never go back to a 2-stroke trail sled. I love the feel and ride of my Vipers and now my Sidewinder.

 

[rnusr01]

I am going to borrow my buddies Renegade 850 this weekend and see how I like it.

 

[race24x]

Wow funny I ride with a 850 and a 900T they are both just as bad as the Yamaha. 850 hasnt blown up but is going through 200 dollar belts. Updated vents wont turn the RPMs it did when he got it uses way more oil than he thought. The XRS is so stiff you cant stand it in both the 900T and 850. The motor mounts have been replaced and now they are talking springs and helix. He sent the shocks out its better, but still not the ride he expected. The 900 is also an XRS but way to stiff. Not sure of any other issues yet and I will have to ride it more. I hate the throttle by wire it feels fake. I will have to try more settings because on the one it was on it felt like the worst turbo lag ever. On the lake no contest they are pretty close I just walk away.

 

[krm]

Wow funny I ride with a 850 and a 900T they are both just as bad as the Yamaha. 850 hasnt blown up but is going through 200 dollar belts. Updated vents wont turn the RPMs it did when he got it uses way more oil than he thought. The XRS is so stiff you cant stand it in both the 900T and 850. The motor mounts have been replaced and now they are talking springs and helix. He sent the shocks out its better, but still not the ride he expected. The 900 is also an XRS but way to stiff. Not sure of any other issues yet and I will have to ride it more. I hate the throttle by wire it feels fake. I will have to try more settings because on the one it was on it felt like the worst turbo lag ever. On the lake no contest they are pretty close I just walk away.

Ride a 900t with a TD tune .You"'ll be happy .

 

[Roost 'Er]

If you want to go fast in a straight line, like railroad beds the SRX is hard to beat. If you like a well handling reliable sled, yes waste of money. The 1” track is crap for looser snow conditions.
Super expensive computer controlled shocks that don’t work, Chinese bearings that fail, lots of durability issues for a sled this expensive! Really? Here read this customer service.....

https://ty4stroke.com/threads/yamaha-has-let-me-down.155993/

I guess it all depends the type of riding you do and if you have an extra sled to ride while yours is being fixed for a month.

Do you even own a sidewinder? Let alone a SRX? Sounds like you have done more reading about so called "SRX Problems" then actually riding one.

"Super expensive computer controlled shocks that dont work"- BS these shocks flat out work, you find yourself adjusting them constantly throughout the day, where as with the QS3-R's it took a wide swing in conditions to justify getting off and adjusting the shocks. Also there is (1) thread about C1523 IQS issues with (3) people saying they have had an issue, plus the guy waiting on parts brings the total to (4) people....

Chinese Bearings- Sure there are some cheap bearings, rear tri-hub however is a huge improvement over the older version. Pretty sure every sled on the market has some bearings from China...

Im on a 19 SRX this season and so far the sled flat out works and not just on lakes and railway beds. It handles flatter then any previous sidewinder, the sled is super smooth and the 1" also works perfectly fine on groomed trails, if it gets real loose yes it will spin more then the taller lugs but the playfulness in the rear end and the way this thing handles is well worth it... (Minus the tuners).

 

[DooZ]

It really isn’t even close to the Axis chassis. You really need to ride them back to back properly set up, then if you can say they aren’t that much different......well you just aren’t being realistic.

I certainly wasn't comparing them in relation to apples to apples. They both have their place on different ends of the spectrum. I will say I still prefer the Cat front end over Poo or Doo.

 

[ClutchMaster]

There are lots of pluses (and minuses) to buying sleds from Polaris or Ski Doo, but the Pro Cross chassis handles better than any other snowmobile I have ever ridden. Granted, I rode my last Polaris back in 2011, so I guess I must have jumped ship before they discovered good handling. There is a legitimate argument that the Pro Cross front end is the best in the business according to some of the experts; I don't know if it is the best, but I know I really like it. The only thing wrong with the Yamaha front end is the Tuner skis that Yamaha puts on their sleds; they are a joke. I added Snow Trackers to my new Sidewinder, and it absolutely rails in the corners, and the steering is light and positive. (Leave it to Snow Tracker to make something out of nothing.) I have the LTX-DX with standard shocks, and it rides softer than my living room couch. Poo & Doo 2-strokes are undoubtedly lighter, and in many people's estimation, lighter equals better handling, but I am in my late 60's and I don't "throw" my sled around corners anymore, I "ride" it, and I like the solid feel of the heavier sled underneath me. For the past 8 years, I have been a died-in-the-wool 4-stroker, and I will never go back to a 2-stroke trail sled. I love the feel and ride of my Vipers and now my Sidewinder.

Do you even own a sidewinder? Let alone a SRX? Sounds like you have done more reading about so called "SRX Problems" then actually riding one.

"Super expensive computer controlled shocks that dont work"- BS these shocks flat out work, you find yourself adjusting them constantly throughout the day, where as with the QS3-R's it took a wide swing in conditions to justify getting off and adjusting the shocks. Also there is (1) thread about C1523 IQS issues with (3) people saying they have had an issue, plus the guy waiting on parts brings the total to (4) people....

Chinese Bearings- Sure there are some cheap bearings, rear tri-hub however is a huge improvement over the older version. Pretty sure every sled on the market has some bearings from China...

Im on a 19 SRX this season and so far the sled flat out works and not just on lakes and railway beds. It handles flatter then any previous sidewinder, the sled is super smooth and the 1" also works perfectly fine on groomed trails, if it gets real loose yes it will spin more then the taller lugs but the playfulness in the rear end and the way this thing handles is well worth it... (Minus the tuners).

Just remove the 4” bar riser replace with 2”, lower your spring settings and any winder/viper will handle just as good, probably better with the 1.25” track.

There’s a recall on the shock controller, they are blowing up like balloons at a carnival.

yes I do own a turbo viper R-TX LE, much better shocks than your SRX. They have over 20 compression and rebound settings on every shock (you only have 3 compression).
No fancy electronic box or shock actuators to fail.

FYI the front and rear suspension geometry is identical to your SRX, except I have 1.375” lug track. So far I’ve been over 130 mph, don’t really think the 1” track is needed for top speed improvement. I would much rather have better traction on the trails. My old viper 2 smoke had huge improvement going from a 1” to 1.25” track, why would I even think of a 1” lug track on a +200hp machine? So I can get 5 more mph on the lake? Heck just tune it and you’ll get 20 mph increase.

M2C

 

[Big_Phil]

I had the chance to ride a 2018 ProS this weekend and all I can say is wow! This thing handles on rails, and is Soooo much lighter than these viper/winder tanks. The bumps were nonexistent. The Only reason I’m still running this cat/yamaha chassis is the power levels.
Reliability seems good but I don’t know much about them.
All you naysayers ride one, then tell me I’m wrong.
Put a turbo on it and I would have one on order tomorrow!

My buddy has a 2017 pro-s. It seems to ride nice and the gps gauge is cool, thats about all I can say about it. 6300kms and he just blew the engine, 20 psi in mag side. Its under warranty, but for a $15k sled, that is absolutely ridiculous to have an engine failure at that low kms. My sidewinder has 8500kms and has never ran better.

All the sled manufacturers are selling garbage. At least the sidewinders are fast and handle well. Polaris you know the engine wont last. Skidoos are disposable garbage IMO and cat/yamaha have alot of stupid things break and leak that shouldnt happen.