Trying to start up after 2+ years

[Shivesy]

You have almost the exact same problem as I delt with. This process I posted fixed my 2 (2007 Attak & 2006 Apex) problems in less than 10 seconds. I would have never figured out the problem and was about to take them both to a dealer. Thank you TY Forum for helping me figure this out. I'm not here to lead you in the wrong direction, I'm just here to save you time and money. I would almost bet money this process works for you. Less than 10 seconds. I'm not a certified machanic but I can't think of any damage this process would create if it doesn't work.

 

[Shivesy]

Sorry...meant to edit

 

[Shivesy]

Just to verify... My key was on, red kill button was up, oil levels correct, fuel relay clicking, fresh gas, dash coming on, battery charged, all was good when I put them away 2-3 years earlier. Turned key to start, the motor would just crank, engine would NOT fire. Trouble shooting and studying for 2 days and found article here. I went out to the sleds and held throttle full blast and turned the key to start and within 10 seconds or less of the motor turning over it finally fired, let off throttle immediately. That simple.

 

[kingtut]

I'll give it a shot if it doesn't fire. Good thing I have this laying around from the old vmax days

 

[kingtut]

God i am unlucky, over tightened one of my plugs and the threads came right off the plug and now stuck in the engine. Hopefully i can fit an extractor in there and not get shavings in at the same time. Oh and ill have to get another plug, throw money at them till they work.

Edit: Got it out. Had to vent for a little bit since this sled has been such a project. If you don't have a set of these I'd get them before you need them

 

[Shivesy]

After looking at your plugs, how in the world did that one get that rusty. Those plugs look terrible. Where do you store your sled, outside?
Are you installing new spark plugs. If so and since you just trashed one of the new ones, take the best looking old one and temporarily install it just to see if you can get the motor to fire.

 

[kingtut]

After looking at your plugs, how in the world did that one get that rusty. Those plugs look terrible. Where do you store your sled, outside?
Are you installing new spark plugs. If so and since you just trashed one of the new ones, take the best looking old one and temporarily install it just to see if you can get the motor to fire.

Waiting on some new caps. Went to the nearest auto parts store and picked some up. Store the sled in a garage. I was quite surprised myself in the condition of them myself.

 

[Shivesy]

After thinking of your situation for a bit I would suggest not to do the wide open throttle technique from the start. After seeing those plugs and how bad looking they are your no start problem could be centered on just those bad plugs.
Once you get your new plugs installed and if your sled doesn't start then try the wide open technique. But at first try to start it without any throttle and see if she fires over.

 

[kingtut]

After thinking of your situation for a bit I would suggest not to do the wide open throttle technique from the start. After seeing those plugs and how bad looking they are your no start problem could be centered on just those bad plugs.
Once you get your new plugs installed and if your sled doesn't start then try the wide open technique. But at first try to start it without any throttle and see if she fires over.

That's what I was going to do. I'd hate to foul these plugs too. 3.99 a piece will make me have to take out a larger morgage.

 

[kingtut]

While putting the new plugs in. Should I not put grease inside the boots so they come off easier? Just the outside?

 

[TBay Sledhead]

Put a little silicon grease in the boot that goes over the plug and where the boot seals to the valve cover.

 

[kingtut]

I believe I put too much inside of the boot and now are creating an insulating barrier from the boot to the plug. Gunna pull them and check for spark with the grease inside of them. If I have spark im removing the belt and holding her wide flippin open. I'm ready for a hail mary over here.

 

[TBay Sledhead]

The metal contacts up inside is what transfer the energy for the spark, the rubber boot seals out any moisture.

 

[kingtut]

I wasn't thinking when I was putting the grease up in there. All I was thinking was how hard they where to unseat. Eat some dinner and head back out there until bed time for the most part.

 

[Surestick]

I believe I put too much inside of the boot and now are creating an insulating barrier from the boot to the plug. Gunna pull them and check for spark with the grease inside of them. If I have spark im removing the belt and holding her wide flippin open. I'm ready for a hail mary over here.

The metal-to-metal contact between the plug and the metal clip in the boot shouldn't have issues with the grease.

If you put too much grease on it can stop you from getting the boot on the plug seated properly as it block you from pushing the boot on far enough by sort-of hydro-locking it. I've had it that even with a smear of grease on the plugs the seal is sometimes good enough that you can feel the air pressure build up inside the boot and you have to squeeze the boot a bit to burp the air out or it wants to spring off.