Uneven Carbide Wear?

[yamaha4sea_fan24]

Hi all,

I've got about 1100 miles on my Viper this season on a set of C&A Razor Skis with the 6in Woodys Doolys on them. Really like the setup, although this past weekend I was pushing more in the corners than I would've liked. Checked my carbides at the end of my ride, and the front of the skag (before the carbide) is worn, I still have good carbide all the way down. Just wondering if there is anything I can do suspension wise to reduce the wear on the front of my carbides. Otherwise I could see getting 2000 miles out of these carbides easily. Looking to see if anyone else has had similar issues with their carbides and what their fix was.

 

[RAMSOMAIR]

Shin under the rubber at back to force ski up at front. Very important to do that almost nobody does.

 

[yamaha4sea_fan24]

Shin under the rubber at back to force ski up at front. Very important to do that almost nobody does.

What do you normally shim with? I was looking into doing this, especially if it'll save me going to get carbides every season.

 

[RAMSOMAIR]

I use aluminum flatbar

 

[yamaha4sea_fan24]

I use aluminum flatbar

Just cut it to the width of the ski rubber and shove it under after loosening everything up? What width did you end up using for the aluminum flatbar?

 

[RAMSOMAIR]

I have Pilot skis, not sure about yours. Pilots have a recess that I cut a piece of aluminum to fit and it just drops in that pocket.

 

[Kkurz]

I shimmed the skis on my Nytro with nylon from a cutting board that I bought at the Dollar Store. It was about 1/4-5/16" thick and worked great.

 

[CharlieAZ]

Hi all,

I've got about 1100 miles on my Viper this season on a set of C&A Razor Skis with the 6in Woodys Doolys on them. Really like the setup, although this past weekend I was pushing more in the corners than I would've liked. Checked my carbides at the end of my ride, and the front of the skag (before the carbide) is worn, I still have good carbide all the way down. Just wondering if there is anything I can do suspension wise to reduce the wear on the front of my carbides. Otherwise I could see getting 2000 miles out of these carbides easily. Looking to see if anyone else has had similar issues with their carbides and what their fix was.

I am not a pro at this stuff, but I was just looking into this for another reason, Darting, and found a lot of information about Shims, and they do prevent what you are describing . I am looking to put Shims on my SR Viper LTX DX , where I have Slydog Powderhounds 7 inch on them , and I am seeing a lot of Darting in hard pack snow... I don't have details yet on Full solution .... But I do have a call into these folks for recommendations on Shims . https://www.bergstromskegs.com/index.htm

 

[Froggy]

Some people use a piece of drive belt under the ski rubber and bergstrom supplies plastic shims with their skegs.

 

[CharlieAZ]

aluminum flatbar

How are you getting it to stay put? thanks Charlie

 

[RAMSOMAIR]

On the Pilot Ski there is a pocket

 

[Froggy]

Bergstrom supplies some little screws to screw the shim to the bottom of the ski rubber. Makes it tight to put the ski back on as the bolt is hard to line up in the ski but I used a pry to lift the ski up into place in order to start the bolt and then a little persuasion with a soft blow hammer does the rest while prying up at the same time.

 

[yamaha4sea_fan24]

Bergstrom supplies some little screws to screw the shim to the bottom of the ski rubber. Makes it tight to put the ski back on as the bolt is hard to line up in the ski but I used a pry to lift the ski up into place in order to start the bolt and then a little persuasion with a soft blow hammer does the rest while prying up at the same time.

Hmm, I was going to try the Snow Studs carbides next, as I’ve heard wear is a bit better than the Woody’s. I’ve gotten feedback from other riders saying Woody’s isn’t the best carbides anymore, found that odd.

 

[biffdotorg]

Honestly, this is not as scientific as many make it. You can use just about anything that is durable and shove it in there. If you take the ski off, you can actually screw the shim to the rubber with short screws, as the rubber is quite thick. No special kit is needed at all, it just needs to be durable and won't break down from water/ice/snow.

If you have to, buy a toilet shim kit, and put the same amount of shim on either side, Screw them in with small screws to keep them in place. And you are good to go. I'ts not science, but very important for sure.

Now if your left is burning more than your right, then you need to get off the shoulder of the road! (smile)

 

[yamaha4sea_fan24]

Honestly, this is not as scientific as many make it. You can use just about anything that is durable and shove it in there. If you take the ski off, you can actually screw the shim to the rubber with short screws, as the rubber is quite thick. No special kit is needed at all, it just needs to be durable and won't break down from water/ice/snow.

If you have to, buy a toilet shim kit, and put the same amount of shim on either side, Screw them in with small screws to keep them in place. And you are good to go. I'ts not science, but very important for sure.

Now if your left is burning more than your right, then you need to get off the shoulder of the road! (smile)

I'll have to grab some pictures of my carbides this weekend and post up.