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undecided said:Roger said:undecided said:Roger said:[quoteChange the primary and secondary springs ASAP. Check the buttons on the secondary and replace if they look fishy.
There was 7400kms on it at the time of the repairs, now there is 7900kms on it.
Why do the springs need to be replaced? To me, with all my previous sledding experience, with never having to touch a clutch, this is poor quality Yamaha clutches.
The springs very well could be OK, but if your mileage hasn't changed, you might as well change them...for USD50 it's a cheap investment.
And as to never having to touch a clutch, save it OK? I owned 14 Polaris' over the years and never touched a clutch in over 40,000 miles of riding. Read my thread where I put almost USD400 into my clutches to rebuild them back to specs....at ~3500 miles.
Yami's engines are great, but their chassis, suspensions and clutches are wayyyyy behind the competition.
So, you're saying their clutches are only good for 4000 miles?
What I am saying is that I will be more diligent in:
1. Blowing off the clutches at least every 500 miles
2. Checking the belt to see how high it's running on the secondary at least every 500 miles.
3. Scotchbrite the faces of the clutches at least every 500 miles
4. Remove and inspect the primary weights and rollers every 1500 miles.
5. Replace the primary and secondary spring every year
6. Purchase a clutch puller so I can remove the primary by myself.
Lessons learned, money spent and I'm trying to move on despite Yamaha saying the weights and rollers are wear items in my YES warranty.
If weights and rollers are wear items, what are piston rings and crank bearings?[/quote]
You're absolutely right. Would the engine be under warranty? Is it not a wear item? So far, no satisfaction from Yamaha = no more buying Yamaha products. Ski-doo's new 2 strokes gets 5 mpg better than Yamahas 4 stroke!!!
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Roger said:undecided said:Roger said:undecided said:Roger said:[quoteChange the primary and secondary springs ASAP. Check the buttons on the secondary and replace if they look fishy.
There was 7400kms on it at the time of the repairs, now there is 7900kms on it.
Why do the springs need to be replaced? To me, with all my previous sledding experience, with never having to touch a clutch, this is poor quality Yamaha clutches.
The springs very well could be OK, but if your mileage hasn't changed, you might as well change them...for USD50 it's a cheap investment.
And as to never having to touch a clutch, save it OK? I owned 14 Polaris' over the years and never touched a clutch in over 40,000 miles of riding. Read my thread where I put almost USD400 into my clutches to rebuild them back to specs....at ~3500 miles.
Yami's engines are great, but their chassis, suspensions and clutches are wayyyyy behind the competition.
So, you're saying their clutches are only good for 4000 miles?
What I am saying is that I will be more diligent in:
1. Blowing off the clutches at least every 500 miles
2. Checking the belt to see how high it's running on the secondary at least every 500 miles.
3. Scotchbrite the faces of the clutches at least every 500 miles
4. Remove and inspect the primary weights and rollers every 1500 miles.
5. Replace the primary and secondary spring every year
6. Purchase a clutch puller so I can remove the primary by myself.
Lessons learned, money spent and I'm trying to move on despite Yamaha saying the weights and rollers are wear items in my YES warranty.
If weights and rollers are wear items, what are piston rings and crank bearings?
You're absolutely right. Would the engine be under warranty? Is it not a wear item? So far, no satisfaction from Yamaha = no more buying Yamaha products. Ski-doo's new 2 strokes gets 5 mpg better than Yamahas 4 stroke!!![/quote]
Same in this house. Dealer did nothing for us, and 2 pleas to Yamaha netted us quotes from the YES warranty policy.
I have been mandated from a higher authority that "no more new Yamaha in this house." Dealer that sold me the sled also sells Doo and Poo, but told him "c'ya".
Lessons learned.....
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My biggest problem with buying Ski-Doo is this. I'm a Canadian, these sleds are made in a welfare province called quebec. This is a separatist province, which over the last 40 years has forced Canada to spend $770 Billion, on the french language to try to keep them happy, and try to keep them in Canada. Canada's National dept is $500 billion. So, if it weren't for this minority language, Canada wouldn't have any dept!!! If you want a job in any level of government in Ottawa, you have to speak french first, then English. How would you like it if Polaris and Arctic Cat were made in a predominantly Spanish state, and they have made your federal government predominantly Spanish, and you can't get a job in your own government unless you were Spanish!!
Does Arctic Cat make a high mileage, good on gas , reliable sled?
Does Arctic Cat make a high mileage, good on gas , reliable sled?
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Roger said:My biggest problem with buying Ski-Doo is this. I'm a Canadian, these sleds are made in a welfare province called quebec. This is a separatist province, which over the last 40 years has forced Canada to spend $770 Billion, on the french language to try to keep them happy, and try to keep them in Canada. Canada's National dept is $500 billion. So, if it weren't for this minority language, Canada wouldn't have any dept!!! If you want a job in any level of government in Ottawa, you have to speak french first, then English. How would you like it if Polaris and Arctic Cat were made in a predominantly Spanish state, and they have made your federal government predominantly Spanish, and you can't get a job in your own government unless you were Spanish!!
Does Arctic Cat make a high mileage, good on gas , reliable sled?
For years Poo used Fuji engines (Japan) and I think Cat still uses mostly Suzuki engines. Lots of Doo stuff is assembled in Mexico isn't it?
As to Cats, best info I can give you is go over to www.ultimatesnowmobiler.com, and look up a guy named "Uplate". He knows Cats inside out and upside down. He'll give you the honest scoop.
Take care, and try to enjoy the sled....that's what I'm trying to do even though it's been the most costly sled (to get it how I want it plus various repairs) I've ever owned.
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Me too. I've never put money into clutches, or carbs. Thanks for the Cat info. This may be the way to go. I'll start a new thread soon naming the dealer that is N.F.G. in the Ottawa area.
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The new thread will get deleted by the moderators. I wouldn't bother.


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Roger said:My biggest problem with buying Ski-Doo is this. I'm a Canadian, these sleds are made in a welfare province called quebec. This is a separatist province, which over the last 40 years has forced Canada to spend $770 Billion, on the french language to try to keep them happy, and try to keep them in Canada. Canada's National dept is $500 billion. So, if it weren't for this minority language, Canada wouldn't have any dept!!! If you want a job in any level of government in Ottawa, you have to speak french first, then English. How would you like it if Polaris and Arctic Cat were made in a predominantly Spanish state, and they have made your federal government predominantly Spanish, and you can't get a job in your own government unless you were Spanish!!
Does Arctic Cat make a high mileage, good on gas , reliable sled?
Roger, This is not a good post, very offensive to Candians and will not be tolerated. This will be removed and consider this a warning. Another post like this will get you a few days of vacation from the site. Please read our site rules!!!!
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yea roger you have to calm down if you want to ride hard and put miles on then you have to be prepaired to spend this isnt a cheap sport they all brake thats snowmobiling. and like others said the only warranty you had was the exhause and idlers yamaha shouldnt have to pay for a clutch that is not serviced every few hundred miles ect.(that goes for doo cat and pol) miles= $ for very brand and the sooner you realize that the less stress youll have sleding.............................happy trails
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rage man said:yea roger you have to calm down if you want to ride hard and put miles on then you have to be prepaired to spend this isnt a cheap sport they all brake thats snowmobiling. and like others said the only warranty you had was the exhause and idlers yamaha shouldnt have to pay for a clutch that is not serviced every few hundred miles ect.(that goes for doo cat and pol) miles= $ for very brand and the sooner you realize that the less stress youll have sleding.............................happy trails
They would not warranty the idlers!!!!!!!!!!
100 000kms of snowmobiling in the last 25 years, and have never, ever spent 5cents on clutches, or carb tuning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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MrSled said:Roger said:My biggest problem with buying Ski-Doo is this. I'm a Canadian, these sleds are made in a welfare province called quebec. This is a separatist province, which over the last 40 years has forced Canada to spend $770 Billion, on the french language to try to keep them happy, and try to keep them in Canada. Canada's National dept is $500 billion. So, if it weren't for this minority language, Canada wouldn't have any dept!!! If you want a job in any level of government in Ottawa, you have to speak french first, then English. How would you like it if Polaris and Arctic Cat were made in a predominantly Spanish state, and they have made your federal government predominantly Spanish, and you can't get a job in your own government unless you were Spanish!!
Does Arctic Cat make a high mileage, good on gas , reliable sled?
Roger, This is not a good post, very offensive to Candians and will not be tolerated. This will be removed and consider this a warning. Another post like this will get you a few days of vacation from the site. Please read our site rules!!!!
I'm a Canadian, I wrote it, and I'm not in the least offended.
You're not Canadian, so you have no idea whats going on up here.
There are a million more things I can talk about, with facts, about Quebec, but there are other sites for that.
rage man
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correction there has been warranted idlers before from yamaha i wasnt 100% sorry but like i said they all brake.Roger said:MrSled said:Roger said:My biggest problem with buying Ski-Doo is this. I'm a Canadian, these sleds are made in a welfare province called quebec. This is a separatist province, which over the last 40 years has forced Canada to spend $770 Billion, on the french language to try to keep them happy, and try to keep them in Canada. Canada's National dept is $500 billion. So, if it weren't for this minority language, Canada wouldn't have any dept!!! If you want a job in any level of government in Ottawa, you have to speak french first, then English. How would you like it if Polaris and Arctic Cat were made in a predominantly Spanish state, and they have made your federal government predominantly Spanish, and you can't get a job in your own government unless you were Spanish!!
Does Arctic Cat make a high mileage, good on gas , reliable sled?
Roger, This is not a good post, very offensive to Candians and will not be tolerated. This will be removed and consider this a warning. Another post like this will get you a few days of vacation from the site. Please read our site rules!!!!
I'm a Canadian, I wrote it, and I'm not in the least offended.
You're not Canadian, so you have no idea whats going on up here.
There are a million more things I can talk about, with facts, about Quebec, but there are other sites for that.
maby it dosnt offend you. but im also canadian and i dont like it that much but what mr sled was probally more concerned about the spanish comments
ps. u shouldnt yell at mr. sled he was just sayin the rules


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rage man said:correction there has been warranted idlers before from yamaha i wasnt 100% sorry but like i said they all brake.Roger said:MrSled said:Roger said:My biggest problem with buying Ski-Doo is this. I'm a Canadian, these sleds are made in a welfare province called quebec. This is a separatist province, which over the last 40 years has forced Canada to spend $770 Billion, on the french language to try to keep them happy, and try to keep them in Canada. Canada's National dept is $500 billion. So, if it weren't for this minority language, Canada wouldn't have any dept!!! If you want a job in any level of government in Ottawa, you have to speak french first, then English. How would you like it if Polaris and Arctic Cat were made in a predominantly Spanish state, and they have made your federal government predominantly Spanish, and you can't get a job in your own government unless you were Spanish!!
Does Arctic Cat make a high mileage, good on gas , reliable sled?
Roger, This is not a good post, very offensive to Candians and will not be tolerated. This will be removed and consider this a warning. Another post like this will get you a few days of vacation from the site. Please read our site rules!!!!
I'm a Canadian, I wrote it, and I'm not in the least offended.
You're not Canadian, so you have no idea whats going on up here.
There are a million more things I can talk about, with facts, about Quebec, but there are other sites for that.
maby it dosnt offend you. but im also canadian and i dont like it that much but what mr sled was probally more concerned about the spanish comments
ps. u shouldnt yell at mr. sled he was just sayin the rules
I dont care... you WILL follow the rules or you will be removed.
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rage man said:correction there has been warranted idlers before from yamaha i wasnt 100% sorry but like i said they all brake.Roger said:MrSled said:Roger said:My biggest problem with buying Ski-Doo is this. I'm a Canadian, these sleds are made in a welfare province called quebec. This is a separatist province, which over the last 40 years has forced Canada to spend $770 Billion, on the french language to try to keep them happy, and try to keep them in Canada. Canada's National dept is $500 billion. So, if it weren't for this minority language, Canada wouldn't have any dept!!! If you want a job in any level of government in Ottawa, you have to speak french first, then English. How would you like it if Polaris and Arctic Cat were made in a predominantly Spanish state, and they have made your federal government predominantly Spanish, and you can't get a job in your own government unless you were Spanish!!
Does Arctic Cat make a high mileage, good on gas , reliable sled?
Roger, This is not a good post, very offensive to Candians and will not be tolerated. This will be removed and consider this a warning. Another post like this will get you a few days of vacation from the site. Please read our site rules!!!!
I'm a Canadian, I wrote it, and I'm not in the least offended.
You're not Canadian, so you have no idea whats going on up here.
There are a million more things I can talk about, with facts, about Quebec, but there are other sites for that.
maby it dosnt offend you. but im also canadian and i dont like it that much but what mr sled was probally more concerned about the spanish comments
ps. u shouldnt yell at mr. sled he was just sayin the rules
I'm not yelling at anyone. Maybe you can still get a job in your different levels of government in N.S., but try it in Ottawa. It's not going to happen.
As for the idlers, Yamaha tells me its a normal wear problem, and not covered. Yamahas internet service rep confirms this.
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I got mine covered, and lots of people here did too. I got rid of my Yami no-active skid and put a M10 in it. Now it rides like a sled should. 

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undecided said:I got mine covered, and lots of people here did too. I got rid of my Yami no-active skid and put a M10 in it. Now it rides like a sled should.![]()
I guess it pays to be American. Brand new sled in Canada, bought in Canada = no warranty, even though they advertise 2 years!!!!!!!!!!
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