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My stock Ripsaw has no studs and at 3,500 miles it missing several lugs and has several stretch marks. The stock Ripsaw on my last Apex made it to 7,000 miles before it came apart. I know this one will not make it that far. Should I replace it now while we have no snow or wait until next fall. I will only be putting about 1,000 miles on it this year. Not sure the track will make the whole season.
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Unstudded would mean technically that you have not stressed the fibbers of the track for lack of traction - so it should be safe based just on this(internally).
If you inspect and find any cuts(sounds possible from cut or ripped lugs etc..) you don't mention how this happened...
If it was hooking internally because track was to loose - or from something else?
Look for bad or serious cuts, fibbers coming out from the edges..loose clips(or distorted)...
If none of that - you should be safe - if there is - put it this way - your sled can quickly take you 100 miles in the bush - can you walk out the same day?
If you inspect and find any cuts(sounds possible from cut or ripped lugs etc..) you don't mention how this happened...
If it was hooking internally because track was to loose - or from something else?
Look for bad or serious cuts, fibbers coming out from the edges..loose clips(or distorted)...
If none of that - you should be safe - if there is - put it this way - your sled can quickly take you 100 miles in the bush - can you walk out the same day?
If you want the most out of your Apex do it now.next year is next year,it will be done 

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No tears. These ripsaws can not handle 150 HP and no studs in a 121 configuration.
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5500 miles on mine, still looks brand new. 121" ER, MONO, bone stock



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9000 on mine ....144 studs looks like new..I guess it all depends on where ya ride and what ya ride over ???
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Mine is completely toasted at 7000 miles all looked good until I put studs in at 5xxx miles and all went downhill
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Update : 9977 miles. It had 2450 mi on it when i bought it. Previous owner had studs and took them out and kept them. A couple strings here and there, all clips look good,a couple damaged lugs. I'm gonna pull it, sell it, and put the money towards an ice attack. I've heard good things about them.
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Have ya ever heard the term:
MURPHY'S LAW.....
get a ICE ATTAK XT---prestudded.
MURPHY'S LAW.....
get a ICE ATTAK XT---prestudded.
I've got 4500+ on my 136 with 162 suds and it still looks mint. It's the pre drilled ripsaw though
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10.000 miles on my 121", 144 studs middle only .... no problems. I changed any studs that may have a slight bend in them every year. Original install I feel has a lot to do with the life of a track ... as well as how they are driven.
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Had 10K plus miles on my attak ripsaw with 96 studs down the center looked like new when I traded her in. Now have 7K miles on Apex XTX iceripper looks pretty good but not as good as the ripsaw same mileage. I live up north & only ride in good snow of northern WI & WUPMI so conditions probably help me. In my view snowmobiles were designed to live & operate in snow not marginal conditions so snow conditions affect the whole sled starting with the track taking the biggest beating.

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I had 9995 on the attak OEM ripsaw I sold with 162 1.325 woodys gold diggers. Track was still good. Clips were all there. Got 6000 now on another and the wife has 7500. All with 1.325's..
Riding style must play into this. And using Woodys' recommend studs and patterns.
Riding style must play into this. And using Woodys' recommend studs and patterns.
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your wife must ride a lot puts you to shame 75,000 miles i think she earned a new sled. lol just kidding im sure its a typo.


I had 11000 miles on the stock Ripsaw with 108 studs . First 3200 miles were from the previous owner were studless.
Replaced it with the Ice Attack XT because I was loosing track clips and had one pull thru. I trail ride only in good conditions.
Track looked good other than the missing clips and the pull thru. No cords showing or delamination and the lugs looked fairly good considering the mileage.
I use the Pioneer Perf. dropped wheel kit to lessen the weight on the clips and the graphite hyfax. I could easily get 2-3 seasons on the hyfax.
At the same time of changing the track I also changed all the driveline and chaincase bearings along with new seals and also install a HD driveshaft from a newer sled.
Should be good for atleast another 10k.
Replaced it with the Ice Attack XT because I was loosing track clips and had one pull thru. I trail ride only in good conditions.
Track looked good other than the missing clips and the pull thru. No cords showing or delamination and the lugs looked fairly good considering the mileage.
I use the Pioneer Perf. dropped wheel kit to lessen the weight on the clips and the graphite hyfax. I could easily get 2-3 seasons on the hyfax.
At the same time of changing the track I also changed all the driveline and chaincase bearings along with new seals and also install a HD driveshaft from a newer sled.
Should be good for atleast another 10k.
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