Will there be a 2015 Flash

[wavemaster]

On my new 2015 ViperXTXSE I still occasionally have hard start issues. For me the best method to avoid the kick and possible back fire is to simply stay on the key a fraction of a second longer. I can easily see how starters could be toasted based on the kick backs.

Are they still tweeking the starting and programming on the Viper? Will there be another flash needed this season. As much as I hate to go to the dealer (for service) I would like to put this issue to bed for good.

 

[Yamadog]

Yes that sucks I just cannot believe how lucky I have been both the 14 & 15 have no issues with starting but do have battery issues at -20 f

 

[cannondale27]

Hope so. Rumor is yes another flash.

 

[Joe ltx-le]

I'm hoping my 16 is gonna be start issue free.

It's seems like most guys are saying to hold the key a bit longer then normal to eliminate kick back problems.

Is this true or just a theory.

 

[SnoNinja]

I'm hoping my 16 is gonna be start issue free.

It's seems like most guys are saying to hold the key a bit longer then normal to eliminate kick back problems.

Is this true or just a theory.

It is true that guys are doing this to help eliminate the kick-back (I do and know others that do), however, we have no way of knowing if doing so will extend the life of the starter. Problem needs to be resolved from Yamaha and Cat, we are just hoping to manage the damage that kick-back does to the starter gear in the meantime. Glad I got the five year warranty.

 

[stingray719]

I'm hoping my 16 is gonna be start issue free.

It's seems like most guys are saying to hold the key a bit longer then normal to eliminate kick back problems.

Is this true or just a theory.

I always start everything that way as a habit from my race car days, starter kick back from those can break a starter case so I got in the habit of making sure anything I start is running before releasing the starter. I have not had the starter kick back on either Viper but then see last sentence.

 

[staggs65]

Same here. Used to starting things this way from years of high compression engines. I believe the starter issues are from kickbacks. People are just used to newer vehicles flipping the key and letting go. Having said that this is an issue that needs resolving.

 

[cannondale27]

They could do like my truck. Once you turn key even if just a bump it will keep cranking till motor starts unless you actually turn key to off. Maybe thats why they did that.

 

[biffdotorg]

They could do like my truck. Once you turn key even if just a bump it will keep cranking till motor starts unless you actually turn key to off. Maybe thats why they did that.

I noticed that to this year when I upgraded from my 2012 Sierra to a 2015 Sierra. If I bumped the key, or let off just a bit short, the ignition would keep cranking till started.

I also noted that my new Sierra likes to have the key turned to the run position for a second, before I move it to the start position to start cranking. It was odd, that when I don't do that, the engine seems to crank longer than usual. But not if I make that pause in the run position. Now my truck is just like my EFI sleds and EFI motorcycle. HA!

 

[cannondale27]

I noticed that to this year when I upgraded from my 2012 Sierra to a 2015 Sierra. If I bumped the key, or let off just a bit short, the ignition would keep cranking till started.

I also noted that my new Sierra likes to have the key turned to the run position for a second, before I move it to the start position to start cranking. It was odd, that when I don't do that, the engine seems to crank longer than usual. But not if I make that pause in the run position. Now my truck is just like my EFI sleds and EFI motorcycle. HA!

Same here. Mines a Tundra. If I instantly crank it every once in a while the security system will kick in and it will not start till either disconnecting battery or waiting 30 minutes. However my Viper starts best if I instantly crank the key cranking it till it starts. 90% of time I swear it fires in less than one revolution. It's that 10% a guy remembers though. Crank forever. I would never crank it past a true ten count. Never had to. I will also point out that I haven't heard of anywhere near the amount of people who had codes appear since reflash. Last year it was epidemic.