dhuey
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Ok let me ask the veterans of riding the Nytros. I've been out of riding for about 7 yrs, my last sled was a 1999 SRX 700 and I just picked up a 2011 Nytro XTX yesterday. My question is that it seems to take alot of effort to steer this Nytro on a trail, is it because I'm out of riding shape or should I let the limiter straps out a hole and take some weight off the front end. I know there's alot of factors involved but I wanted a general idea before I start messing with the suspension. I'm 6'1" - 200lbs. I only put a few miles on and my arms were wore out. I'm an avid Quad and street bike riding so I'm not too out of shape!
Thanks!
Dave
Thanks!
Dave
yox185
TY 4 Stroke Master
They are a pup to steer stock. I had Hygear do all my shocks and springs and it made a huge difference. I would adjust your transfer so the sled rocks back more, that's part of what Hygear recommends. I would also lighten the front springs to the minimum and lower the compression settings. If all that fails take steroids.
DaveRX1
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do not take up the front limiter, it will ADD ski pressure and make it HARDER to turn. The problem is the skiis, they have a long striaght non tapered keel. This makes them hard to turn the bars and when you do actually turn the bars, the front end will actually bight too hard and it will try to high side you! not exactly confidence inspiring.
I have Camoplast skiis, they are way easier to turn and they dont try to kill you. I hear that the doo pilot skiis are the best for Nytro, but I have not tried them.
I have Camoplast skiis, they are way easier to turn and they dont try to kill you. I hear that the doo pilot skiis are the best for Nytro, but I have not tried them.
PoliticalMachine
Pro
OFT steering relocator and pull the limiter strap 1 hole tighter. the stock shocks are set for 185lbs rider weight. i wouldnt be changing the the preload to aid in steering. the steering relocator raises the bars and moves them forward giving you more leverage to turn the bars its a more natural feel. also you can shim your skis or call scott bergstrom to help set you up with your skis
dhuey
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Ok, conflicting answers but still I'll take all the advice I can. I'm pretty sure I don't want to shorten the limiter straps and apply more ski pressure to make it steer easier so I'll losen them one hole in the morning and give that a try. I'm going to research skis more and get a different set since everyone seems to agree a ski change will make a differance.
Thanks!
Thanks!
fasteddie
Extreme
Most after market skis are more aggressive making it HARDER to steer!!! The difference is (with after market skis) that when you turn the bars it actually turns instead of pushing in the corner. There may be some skis that will make it turn easier but I would think it wont be as responsive. Be careful in your selection in aftermarket skis.
Loosen front springs or add triple rate springs for an even better option. Add preload to center shock.
sgilbert
TY 4 Stroke Guru
simmons, relocate steering and dial suspension
mach9
TY 4 Stroke Master
Nytro's are heavy on the front.
But when you go faster they steer easier.
It's a balance, but I'd rather not be pushing through a corner at 60+ and have some ski bite.
So I live with the slow heavy steering.
But when you go faster they steer easier.
It's a balance, but I'd rather not be pushing through a corner at 60+ and have some ski bite.
So I live with the slow heavy steering.
dhuey
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Sounds good guys! It's good to know the Nytros are front heavy and not that I'm getting older, LOL! I'll try some adjustments while I'm breaking it in and go from there. If nothing else I'll get a good work out.
Center rear shock adj worked for me.
sgilbert
TY 4 Stroke Guru
between getting used to the xtx and my barley diet I go on in winter, my arms grew too big for my shirts. lol
Grimm
TY 4 Stroke God
Yup, they are a handful to steer. A few suggestions...lower spring pressure on the skis, shimming ski rubbers so there is more rearward pressure on the skis, increase spring preload on the center shock in rear suspension, lower torsion spring pressure one notch if you can get away without bottoming, and maybe increase transfer with the rod adjustments.
Going to an aftermarket ski can give you easier steering...I run Kimpex Arrows. They turn easy and have greater bite than the stockers for the corners, however they are a narrow ski designed for the trails, not off trail. If you want an easy turning off trail ski, then I'd suggest Curve or Slydog Powderhounds.
If you want more info on above suggestions, try using the search feature on this site. This has been covered by many and in much more detail.
Going to an aftermarket ski can give you easier steering...I run Kimpex Arrows. They turn easy and have greater bite than the stockers for the corners, however they are a narrow ski designed for the trails, not off trail. If you want an easy turning off trail ski, then I'd suggest Curve or Slydog Powderhounds.
If you want more info on above suggestions, try using the search feature on this site. This has been covered by many and in much more detail.
I have done like this on my 2011 XTX.
Front spring is ratteling when the machine is lifted in the front so the skis dont tutch the grounde. compresson on max, rebound in middle, swaybar in front hole (softer i think)
Center spring is on max preload, the front strap in middle to reduse the lowered skipressure you get from tighten the center spring. Shimmed yamaha mountain skis. Max compresion on the rear shock, torsion spring in M.
Not so mutch weight transfer, i think the distans is 14 mm when i sit on the machine. recomended 16-22mm.
The handling is now mutch better, but the inner ski lift is stil ther, the center shock is bottoming.
Stock center spring is 1,5kg/mm and rtx-se have 2,5kg/mm. Before i revalve the shocks i will try to take away the swaybar and se how it will bee.
Front spring is ratteling when the machine is lifted in the front so the skis dont tutch the grounde. compresson on max, rebound in middle, swaybar in front hole (softer i think)
Center spring is on max preload, the front strap in middle to reduse the lowered skipressure you get from tighten the center spring. Shimmed yamaha mountain skis. Max compresion on the rear shock, torsion spring in M.
Not so mutch weight transfer, i think the distans is 14 mm when i sit on the machine. recomended 16-22mm.
The handling is now mutch better, but the inner ski lift is stil ther, the center shock is bottoming.
Stock center spring is 1,5kg/mm and rtx-se have 2,5kg/mm. Before i revalve the shocks i will try to take away the swaybar and se how it will bee.
larrypolaris
Expert
Hygear Tripple Rate Springs and Ski Doo Pilot ski's worked great for me.
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