Yamaha snocross team

[NytroSx]

BlueByYou2000 wrote:

Are you saying this is the first time you have ever heard of a company testing R&D by use of racing?
No, I'm simply saying that they aren't in it only for R&D.

I sense a little hostility between ya both.
I do know all manufacters market racing as being R&D, it's a way to make a customer feel directly linked to the racing he enjoys, racing = marketing. As with all aspects and avenues of R&D, you will learn and gain knowledge.

 

[adubs916]

Are you saying this is the first time you have ever heard of a company testing R&D by use of racing?

No, I'm simply saying that they aren't in it only for R&D.

You asked if I thought Toyota got into Nascar for better R&D and I responded yes and gave you proof of it. Are you implying that you also think that R&D is one of the reasons they got into it? If so, thats not what I take out of your original question "Do you think Toyota got into Nascar for better R&D". Especially considering you think my other posts are off base.

Sorry, maybe I misinterpreted your question.

Ok guys, lets settle down a little bit. Yes R & D is in part of everyones master plan when they decide to go racing, but winning races is too!

We all want to see Yamaha dominate, not because it will sell more sleds, but because you and I wear Yamaha jackets, hats etc. loud and proud, and we want to feel good about ourselves and the company we are loyal to.

R & D cannot be the sole reason to race. It is far too emotional of a sport for it to be that simple. A racer first races because he/she loves the sport of it, but also races to win! I have been there first hand, winning a piddley ole sport class heat race is still a win and it feels great!


This is why it is frustrating to see only three racers out on the Sno-X track taking some bashing. I would like to see sport riders, semi-pro riders and more independant pro race teams. They don't have a racer program where you can get replacement parts at the track, or racing personell avalible to the amature racer.

The R & D that is done by the thousands of riders putting on thousands of miles each season has a ton of value to Yamaha as well, in fact I think it has more that what can be done by three Sno-X racers.

Bottom line, winning feels good to the racers and us, I think that should be more of a priority with the factory race effort.

 

[NytroSx]

Well said 916!

 

[BlueByYou2000]

I agree with winning should be the priority part, but its not with Yamaha. If Yamaha were really serious about Snow-X they would have LaValle, Eckstrom, Morin, Morgan, etc riding there sleds.

adubs, good post and I agree with all of it.

 

[BlueByYou2000]

BlueByYou2000 wrote:

Are you saying this is the first time you have ever heard of a company testing R&D by use of racing?
No, I'm simply saying that they aren't in it only for R&D.

I sense a little hostility between ya both.
I do know all manufacters market racing as being R&D, it's a way to make a customer feel directly linked to the racing he enjoys, racing = marketing. As with all aspects and avenues of R&D, you will learn and gain knowledge.

No hostility, Mighy and I go way back.

 

[FLYBYU]

I have a bud ,who rides scooby-doo,and all he does is bitch about pol. and cat racing WORKS sleds, that aren't availlible to the public. Ski-doo and Yamaha are out there on basically trail sled design that are availible to the public. I think Yamaha wants to better thier product and get some exposer. If racing was their only concern,being the sleeping giant they are, they would come out and dominate the other factories.

thats the big picture there. go try to buy an a.c. sno pro race sled. I worked at an a.c. dealer and i couldnt even get one unless i joined the race program. and there not even trailable without burning up

 

[Mighty]

I gotta keep BlueByYou2000 on his toes but I might better watch it or he may think twice about posting bail yet again for me

 

[Mighty]

Marketing 101 for motorsports: "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday"

 

[BlueByYou2000]

Marketing 101 for motorsports: "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday"

Yamaha is winning on race tracks all across the country. On Ice, Tar, grass and Highmarking in the mountains. Setting world record speeds along the way I might add.

And Dan, I know you posted that for me you dog

 

[Mighty]

 

[BlueByYou2000]

See now shouldnt count as a post. Are you padding your post totals. Theres guys ahead of you now, you better get going

 

[MADDOG24]

Just think how the DOO camp fells. They have alot of teams and are having their lunch handed to them by Polaris and Hibbert on the Cat. I don't think The new XP has even had a top 5 yet. As far as Toyota entering NASCAR for R&D, are you kidding me! They don't even build a pushrod motor. The only reason they are in it is to increase their sales of Trucks and to some degree cars. As far as Yamaha not doing great in snocross so far, they only have a pair of racers. Cross country racing success would mean more to me as an aggressive trail rider (consumer) Just my .02 cents worth.

 

[NOS-PRO]

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Thank you

 

[tryanATTAK]

Well in the new issue of Supertrax magazine they have reported that the new yamaha Nytro snow-x'er is within a few feathers of the Polaris race sleds. If that is true and not more marketing hype I see the only reason Yamaha is not doing well, is lack of familiarity with the sleds and not enough drivers running them.

 

[Superman]

My buddy is getting ready for the Soo I-500. He was a long time Polaris guy and a couple years ago he was Approached By Yamaha to run the RX-1. Funny thing is I was talking to him yesterday and He said "All your ever going to see win at the Soo are Yamaha 4 strokes." Obviously the roundy racing is not as popular as snowcross. But for anyone who has ever been to the Soo and watch those sleds go into the first corner of the first lap you know there is nothing in the history of snowcross racing that can match that scene. 500 miles of balls to the wall 100+ mph straightaway speeds and a track that has to be groomed every hundred miles or so because the track gets whooped up so bad. The hardest test of Man and Machine in snowmobiling. (oh I forgot about those Iron man races you guys do up there in Alaska too.)

In snowcross these riders are good. Timing, knowledge, know how. But snowcross racing isn't about the manufacturer so much as it is the rider. Jeremy Mcgrath was the best supercross racer maybe ever. How many championships did he win? on how many bikes?

Yamaha is out there trying I'll give them that. But it's up to us to pick our battles. We can't measure everything based on snowcross.