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13MM swaybar


I have floats. They are at 62psi. A arms are close to flat. I will let some air out and put them flat. I hate to go too soft for my style of riding, but I do like being able to turn. I just put on a cobra track too.
 
the lower a arms should be almost parallel to the ground. i love my 13mm.
 
I love mine too I'm running GYTR clickers up front and my limiter strap is set for full transfer. Corners way better than the 11mm and it don't even notice it being any stiffer in the bumps! I also run DOO pilot skis.
 
It is basicly impossible not to be flatter than the 11mm. The only complaint should be a little more feed back to the steering. Has to be the conditions! BTW..I run the pilots as well.
 
RSVECTORFREAK said:
I love mine too I'm running GYTR clickers up front and my limiter strap is set for full transfer. Corners way better than the 11mm and it don't even notice it being any stiffer in the bumps! I also run DOO pilot skis.

Limiter strap or transfer rod?

I have been considering a 13mm sway bar for quite some time so it is good to hear most really like it.

Maybe Pioneer will have a sale soon?
 
Irv said:
RSVECTORFREAK said:
I love mine too I'm running GYTR clickers up front and my limiter strap is set for full transfer. Corners way better than the 11mm and it don't even notice it being any stiffer in the bumps! I also run DOO pilot skis.

Limiter strap or transfer rod?

I have been considering a 13mm sway bar for quite some time so it is good to hear most really like it.

Maybe Pioneer will have a sale soon?

Both limiter strap all the way out and transfer rods set for max transfer. I'm a big guy and don't need anymore weight on the skis! :)
 
RedRX1 said:
It is basicly impossible not to be flatter than the 11mm. The only complaint should be a little more feed back to the steering. Has to be the conditions! BTW..I run the pilots as well.

My understanding is that the 11mm will give more body roll ( both skis on the ground) and the 13mm will give more ski lift in a corner. I like the 13mm better but you have to adjust your riding style and play around with the other suspension components a bit.
 
YammyRX1 said:
RedRX1 said:
It is basicly impossible not to be flatter than the 11mm. The only complaint should be a little more feed back to the steering. Has to be the conditions! BTW..I run the pilots as well.

My understanding is that the 11mm will give more body roll ( both skis on the ground) and the 13mm will give more ski lift in a corner. I like the 13mm better but you have to adjust your riding style and play around with the other suspension components a bit.

I found the opposite to be true in my case my ski lift all but disappeared after going to the 13mm! One of the main reasons I swapped it out!

Here's what Pioneer claims and it did exactly that for me!

"Our Heavy Stabilizer Bars will dramatically improve handling and reduce body roll compared to the stock bar. The increased diameter of the bars help to keep the sled flatter and more predictable in the turns. As you turn into the corner the outside ski will "set" sooner transfering more force from the inside ski. This actually helps to lower the roll center while turning allowing you drive faster through the corners by keeping your skis and track in contact with the snow. "
 
This conversation sounds familiar and I was probably wrong the first time too LOL. Maybe the body roll causes the ski lift?

Edit: I think where we ended up last time was that the 13mm sway bar reduces ski lift until you take the corner too hard and then when it finally does happen it gets away from you a lot quicker.
 
My ski lift has dramatically increased. I put the limiter straps in the 4th hole(i haven't heard of anyone running theirs this tight) and it will turn now. Suprisingly, with the pilots, steering effort is still fairly light.
 
just finished instaling my widener kit and it came with a 13 mm sway bar . after install sat on sled and it seems to sway quite a bit ? can wait to go for a ride to confirm changes.
 


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