Anything longer than 300' with any amount of hook up I win.
500' or less, soft snow, they win.
Apex walks away and keeps on walking in most all conditions. They have way longer legs.
I have a bone stock SE, one hole up on limiter, 90 % transfer , 96 trail studs.
It should not beat the E-tech but it does. [soundly] I have not even started to tune on My 2011 Apex yet as we were using it as a bench mark for tuning a buddys 800 R that I was destroying and my old SC RX 1.
It will only get better when I start with clutching and suspension adjustments.
Top speed is awesome as well. It is running within 1 km hr of my old Supercharged RX1 and Supercharged Apex up top in a 1/2 mile on ice.
The 2011's are amazing !!!!!!!!