LJ 452
TY 4 Stroke God
mach9 said:
Are you referring to the doo version of the snopro skid? I've heard that at least their race skid is going to be a copy of the cat race skid. May as well, it seems to work. Hey yam you hear that!
northerndoc
Expert
Rode the new Pro RMK 800 this last week in West Yellowstone for two days (rental) and can honestly say if I buy a new sled this next year, it will be the Assault. The new bonded chassis is light, rigid and handles great both on and offtrail. I like my nytro, but spending all day offtrail is a chore with it. I love the motor, but the weight is getting old. The new 800 CFI motor is every bit as strong as the etec (for my needs- not a drag racer, so could care less who wins a race), although not as fuel and oil efficient (once again- don't care...) it is a very stout motor and no longer has the hiccup in the midrange. I'll probably still keep my Nytro and convert it back to trail duty, because after everything I've done to it, I'll never get my money back out of it. I have three other Polaris sleds and have had great luck with them.... wouldn't hesitate to buy another one. I also doubt you'll see Polaris spending huge amounts of capital building an all-new four-stroke. DI 2-stroke is the route I see them going. Doesn't bother me. Yamaha does 4-strokes better than anybody, so it'll be pretty difficult to compete with them in the motor arena unless they buy the motors from someone else. The Mexico thing is a non-issue. It's only a parts manufacturing facility. The sleds are still assembled in Minn. If the Mexico thing bothers everyone so much, they had better stop buying domestic cars and trucks, as a good portion of the parts used in them are made in Mexico... among other offshore locations. Yamaha sleds are built in Japan... Again, non-issue. Just my .02$
NFLD-Nytro
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
smoothride said:
Did your sled come with spare rivets?
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I'm a recent Yamaha owner (post 1981) and know about the reliability of their engines. Being a current Polaris and older Ski-Doo owner as well, I'm open to any sled manufacturer's offerings. By the way, I love the little Phazer.
I've recently driven a few of the Polaris Rush sleds during one of their demo rides and really liked how well the sleds handled the rough trails. It seems like they purposely picked rough trails to showcase the new rear suspension. I found all the Rushes handled similarly with the big difference being clutching and engine power. I only came close to bottoming out once after flying over a 6 ft high knoll and hitting the hole pounded out of the other side really hard. Surprisingly, the sled took the shock, kept going straight and saved my back.
The LX was clutched like a typical entry level touring sled, quick to engage at low RPM and delivering very smooth and linear acceleration. It has plenty of power but delivers it in a very subdued way making it feel heavier than it was.
The Rush 600 Pro-R was my favourite feeling very light but with strong power delivered through a high RPM engagement clutch. It seemed to take-off like a little rocket when the fun flipper was tickled.
The 800 Pro-R had a lot more power but also felt heavier. It almost seemed to benefit the ride because at the 60 to 80 miles an hour we were cruising at, it felt like it was more stable than the other models.
All Rush models drove at those high speeds like my current sleds drive at 40 mph. And yes, even the new Phazer feels really wild and unpredictable to drive at those speeds. I'll probably iron out those Phazer wrinkles eventually but if was nice to drive a sled that rode well without changing a bunch of parts. I've almost worked the odd cornering jump the Phazer does by adjusting the rear torsion springs to soft.
I've recently driven a few of the Polaris Rush sleds during one of their demo rides and really liked how well the sleds handled the rough trails. It seems like they purposely picked rough trails to showcase the new rear suspension. I found all the Rushes handled similarly with the big difference being clutching and engine power. I only came close to bottoming out once after flying over a 6 ft high knoll and hitting the hole pounded out of the other side really hard. Surprisingly, the sled took the shock, kept going straight and saved my back.
The LX was clutched like a typical entry level touring sled, quick to engage at low RPM and delivering very smooth and linear acceleration. It has plenty of power but delivers it in a very subdued way making it feel heavier than it was.
The Rush 600 Pro-R was my favourite feeling very light but with strong power delivered through a high RPM engagement clutch. It seemed to take-off like a little rocket when the fun flipper was tickled.
The 800 Pro-R had a lot more power but also felt heavier. It almost seemed to benefit the ride because at the 60 to 80 miles an hour we were cruising at, it felt like it was more stable than the other models.
All Rush models drove at those high speeds like my current sleds drive at 40 mph. And yes, even the new Phazer feels really wild and unpredictable to drive at those speeds. I'll probably iron out those Phazer wrinkles eventually but if was nice to drive a sled that rode well without changing a bunch of parts. I've almost worked the odd cornering jump the Phazer does by adjusting the rear torsion springs to soft.
Fourcam281
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My my riding buddies dad just got two of the turbo 4 stroke 136's. Both of them puked their chaincase guts on the garage floor after a 100 miles.
Mad Russian
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Polaris just looks like its made verry cheap. 
mach9
TY 4 Stroke Master
LJ 452 said:
No, for 2012 ski-doo has figured out how to do a real rising rate rear skid as the Rush. But they are doing it all under tunnel.
The ride is supose to be better than a Rush.
And you get easy adjustment right on the running boards.
It's called "rMotion" and they are showing it on YouTube.
Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmNYrV1zN9w
Cheers
quebecmoutainrider
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
No one can beat Yamaha on the trails..the heavey sled with trackers and studs makes it the best sled on the trails.you guys on the trails now have power steering..that is huge,tried one..WOW..now she wants one..as for off trail..they still are way heavyer than the RMK PRO 163...the yamaha motor..BULLETPROOF...like everyone says..its the weight at the end of the day..I will always get a yammie for my wife..and when I go ride on trails with my friends..I use my wifes sled..mine on trails is dangerous..lol.if you guys think the sleds dart,try a mountain on the trails..lol..without the bar connected..independent danger..even with my fox shocks.Changeing cause of the weight..just too dam tiered at the end of the day..Im blue....but getting old... 
thetruck454
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
If I were to buy a brand new sled Today, I'd probaably get the Polaris Assault Switchback or the 136" pro r switchback. Like others have said, I'm inlove with my nytro and everything about it, except for the weight.
Yamahas are heavy, no doubt about it. -All- four strokes are. Doo has the lightest four stroke and Cat has the heaviest. Is there a list of all the four strokes made by all manufacturers that includes the weights? I do not think we will ever see a 430 pound four stroke from anyone. You just cannot compare a two stroke to a four stroke when it comes to weight. If Yamaha wants to compete in the weight department they are going to have to build a new sled in a new chassis with a new engine that burns oil.
rindtj
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
I agree with all of the Assault 144" talk. With those tipped up rails, if I ever became a 50/50 rider I would own one no doubt. They look great and from what I hear just feel great when you are on them....
X2 rindtj I rode one a couple of weeks ago and it was impressing. I had never been on a polaris before to speak of.
shadow44
TY 4 Stroke God
bottlerocket said:
A buddy of mine rode one out in New Brunswick a couple of weeks ago...they had 2 ft of fresh powder on the trails the night before they arrived. He said off trail it was a fun sled that worked very well...on trail he said it was garbage...very tippy and didn't corner worth a crap.
thetruck454
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
shaddow44 said:
So on trail it was just like a nytro? lol
shadow44
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thetruck454 said:
Lol, actually he rode a Nytro XTX out there last season and liked it alot better...he never complained about the Nytros handling on or off trail...just said it needed better skis....but he hated the Assault.
