Apex/Attack????

[Mighty]

1 last word; As I mentioned I had an Attak and now a Rage. The past several days mother Nature has provided enough snow for me to do alot of drift busting, ditch banging and log many miles off trail around my house. I can tell you that I am 100% more happy with the Rage than I was with the Attak. I tried the same stuff with my Attak last year and was really disapointed. I came to the conclusion it was a groomed trail sled only. The Rage does have a 1.5 paddle track but the bottom line is that it's lighter and I can tell the difference. Don't get caught up in riding position stuff either, it really isn't that different. You aren't comparing to a REV...........

 

[STI]

My .02 from a new member to you. I ride off trail as much as I possibly can in Northern Idaho and Montana. The powder on epic days in 2.5-3.5 ft deep. Any sled with less than a 144 track and short on horsepower is a back breaking lesson waiting to happen...you'll be trying to get unstuck more than you'll want to keep track off.

I ride a 151 Polaris and my 800 is putting out about 153 hp. There are times I wish I had more horsepower and more flotation, but 97% of the time my setup is perfect.

A lot comes down to rider ability, so if your short on that (new to sledding, or been out of the sport for awhile) don't handicap yourself with an incorrect sled/setup. Get a mountain sled for deep powder and off trail riding. I'm sure more mountain riders will chime in.

P.S. I'm going to be purchasing a new Yami as soon as they are released. Hence the reason for me surfing a Yamaha forum.

 

[willywonka]

My .02 from a new member to you. I ride off trail as much as I possibly can in Northern Idaho and Montana. The powder on epic days in 2.5-3.5 ft deep. Any sled with less than a 144 track and short on horsepower is a back breaking lesson waiting to happen...you'll be trying to get unstuck more than you'll want to keep track off.

I ride a 151 Polaris and my 800 is putting out about 153 hp. There are times I wish I had more horsepower and more flotation, but 97% of the time my setup is perfect.

A lot comes down to rider ability, so if your short on that (new to sledding, or been out of the sport for awhile) don't handicap yourself with an incorrect sled/setup. Get a mountain sled for deep powder and off trail riding. I'm sure more mountain riders will chime in.

P.S. I'm going to be purchasing a new Yami as soon as they are released. Hence the reason for me surfing a Yamaha forum.

Thanks for the info all.....

I think after reading for hours now, i have decided to get a apex mtn 2007
in blue. Im going to save the 400-500.00$ and pass on the se version.
The only differance is the fox float front shocks. And 4 lbs. Ill put that 500
into some after market products. and be good too go. Then maybe if i think i need it, ill upgrade the front shocks in the future. Going to put the 500
into a clutch set. I read the clutch set has a good effect on the sled.
And i also like YAM blue so its the apex mtn for me. thxs

 

[HYFLYR]

The apex mtn is the only way to go up here. The attack is a cool sled, but in Ak you need the longer track and why bother with the aftermarket when you can get a setup sled like the apex straight from the factory. You wont be dissapointed with the apex whereas after a few rides and being stuck quite often on the attack im sure you would be kicking yourself. Up here, long tracks rule and thats the way it is, especially if your in the backcountry. Hope you enjoy the sled, i know i do.

 

[pro116]

You live in Alaska there is some big mountains and eep pwder out there.I wouldn't go with anything shorter than a 144".I like the riding egrnomics better on the apex chaiss over the vector.If I did go back to a 3 cylinder it would be highly modifed and making it rider forward with a wild child steering post.I'm looking at possibaly building a 144" Attack or what comes out new.

 

[Turk]

The Attak is brutal in deep snow but it handles well once you get going. My advice is
Buy an Attak & get a Hartman kit to go at least 144 & shallow out the approach angle or
Buy a 07 Apex Mountain.
We had epic snow in my area last year & the Attak was horrible in stock configuration. good thing I had 150 hp to blast my way thru. Can,t imagine a 3 holer ...no way no how. Deep snow = big power; the more the better!!!

 

[SoCoRX1]

Long tracks are the only thing to have when riding any powder, and 75% especially. The apex suspension rails are tipped up a little in the back, making it a nice trail sled as well with great trail manners. It is amazing in the powder as well. i am in love with an apex. I was going to get one for next season, but im just going to supercharge my sled.

 

[SPRTNWD]

how much are you willing to spend? if $$ is not too much of an issue i would buy a new apex mountain you have dependability of a new sled you have loads of power/torque for all types of snow with the option to boost, with plenty of track, they are a little heavy however between switching out a few parts for lightweight parts and removing yamahas excess crap that you dont need, you will get used to riding this sled and you will be happy because you didnt shortchange yourself.

make sure you have fun with your decision!!

 

[errol]

I do 80% of off trail and 20% trail!

The advantage of the 162" in powder surpasses by a big margin the disadvantages in the trail!

The Maverick having soft paddle makes riding on trail very comfortable. Just be easy on the throttle!

I had a Warrior before and it was not a good sled in the powder! So I don't think an Attak would be that much better!

Just my $0.02 cents

Errol

 

[newfieattak]

got a 2 inch , and mountain skis on my attak, climbs excellent in 3-4 ft powder, regeared to a 22 top gear, just as good as a 900 rmk with 151, handles sid hilling easly.

 

[hottshot]

My .02 from a new member to you. I ride off trail as much as I possibly can in Northern Idaho and Montana. The powder on epic days in 2.5-3.5 ft deep. Any sled with less than a 144 track and short on horsepower is a back breaking lesson waiting to happen...you'll be trying to get unstuck more than you'll want to keep track off.

I ride a 151 Polaris and my 800 is putting out about 153 hp. There are times I wish I had more horsepower and more flotation, but 97% of the time my setup is perfect.

A lot comes down to rider ability, so if your short on that (new to sledding, or been out of the sport for awhile) don't handicap yourself with an incorrect sled/setup. Get a mountain sled for deep powder and off trail riding. I'm sure more mountain riders will chime in.

P.S. I'm going to be purchasing a new Yami as soon as they are released. Hence the reason for me surfing a Yamaha forum.

Thanks for the info all.....

I think after reading for hours now, i have decided to get a apex mtn 2007
in blue. Im going to save the 400-500.00$ and pass on the se version.
The only differance is the fox float front shocks. And 4 lbs. Ill put that 500
into some after market products. and be good too go. Then maybe if i think i need it, ill upgrade the front shocks in the future. Going to put the 500
into a clutch set. I read the clutch set has a good effect on the sled.
And i also like YAM blue so its the apex mtn for me. thxs

You have chosen wisely... just remeber ICE SCRATCHERS!!!!!! or on set up have the dealer put in the Hyper Fax it will save you time and money later!!

 

[willywonka]

thanks all great info. great site.

 

[unreal]

Apex vs. attak

I read these postings and thought I would give you my opinion. I currently have an 06 Apex mountain, wife has 07 Phazer mountain lite(soon to be turboed), and used to have an 04 RX1 mountain. In my opinion this is a simple, Attak needs way too many mods to do the job, track too short and skinny, ski stance too wide etc. A nightmare for powder.Apex SE much better suited and no mods. As far as a vector is concerned don't even bother. It is delta box 1 chassis and is a handling nightmare and an outdated chassis just like the RX1(same chassis). Phazer needs a turbo or supercharger to be considered a real sled. I do about 50% mountain riding and about 50% trails. The only thing is in marginal snow you get rapid hyfax wear, but add scratchers, extra wheels, hyperfax or whatever you want and this will help alot. I absolutely LOVE my Apex for an all around sled, and once the wife's is turboed I think this will be an awesome play toy, but just that it is a play toy. No rack, track too short and skinny, wife's will also be stretched to 151" or 162"once the turbo is done. In my opinion for what you want it for and where you are get the Apex.

 

[REXX]

There are some awesome sleds out there...technique is still KING.

As per STI ...150+hp, and more flotation is key when travelling through untamed backcountry. I had my RX1 mtn dialed in pretty good but I felt I could have used more track. You've got to know how to ride to make an RX1 sing and dance.

The Apex mtn will leave you feeling ten feet tall and bullet proof...It's that good!!

The RX1 with a 151 still felt like a regular sled. When you go to the Apex with 162 x 16 inch track, the little stuff is a blip and it launches over the big stuff effortlessly. If you've ever raced across a lake on a boat you will understand the importance of flotation...I ridden my Apex at 60mph in powder, through three foot deep powder drifts, and over rock hard blizzard blown tundra. I've ridden at 10 degrees above freezing, and at 39 below zero...the wonderful thing about an EFI 4-Stroke, electric starting mountain sled is that an elevation clutching chart is the only thing you will need to get started.

Other's will try to sell you on lightness, and nimbleness, and play, and powder and blah, blah, blah. To consistantly cover big distances over big, tough, forever changing terrain conditions in harsh subzero climates. You need a strong well built machine. With an Apex mtn you will probably get there first, but more importantly...you will get there.

Follow HYFLYR's advice..

Good luck and enjoy the experience.

 

[monkeyman]

Hey willy, I've been up in AK riding all winter. I've got an Attak completely stock. It does o.k in powder especially if you keep on the throttle. Once you let go you definitely start to sink. I'm talking 2-3 foot of snow with a good base. If you get into an area that has taken alot of snow in a short amount of time you will be in bad shape if you happen to go of the trail, even slightly. But that's in remote areas. Otherwise it is a great trail/lake sled My buddy has a VK pro, it is a monster, but will conquer just about any terrain you want to go through, with the exception of making your own trails through tight trees and the like. His machine has plenty of power for what your talking about and a low gear. He pulled our friends car out of the ditch with the VK. If you were to go with the Attak I'd definitely put a paddle on it. I also have been riding a ski doo back country. It is a pretty cool little machine. It will almost go anywhere. Super tight turning radius, very zippy, does well in powder, and light enough to get out out when really stuck. If your stuck on the Attak you would be pretty happy up here with it, but not a utility sled by any means and you just might find yourself needeing to haul stuff or in an area where one sled works better than the other. It kind of depends on where you will be riding too. If you have access to trails/lakes right from where you live and will mostly be riding there, then see what type of snow fall that area gets. It's amazing how different the snow fall is in areas that are close together. Hope this helps a little. Geez I didn't mention any mods, sorry, I can't find the time for any, I'm always riding.