Apex battery feedback 14 series vs 20

[terez]

Just bought a 2013 Apex XTX.
Has its oem battery that is working fine....in the current temps.

I'm gonna put a new battery in to prevent any issues and while I have the sled torn down for an oil change....not exactly an easy process to swap out the battery.....so good time to do it while the sled is apart.

My research shows an AGM battery is a no brainer as basically the same price but tougher, cold resistant and poss last longer.

What I'm really looking for is whether going to a 20 series battery from the oem 14 is worth the expense and 4lbs weight extra????

I'm led to believe the 20 series will fit well with the batt box foam removed?

310cca vs 220cca sure loks appealing for the stupid cold nights I see where I sled sometimes.

I know cca is always good....but not nec a magic bullet...especially if fueling and other issues are the problem.

Does the Apex NEED the extra cca or is it overkill?

Any feedback welcome...especially from those who have used a 20 series batt in their apex.


Thanks

 

[terez]

I assume an AGM battery would provide better actual cca than my oem battery under the same conditions??

Maybe this advantage alone is enough of an improvement?
My oem battery is apparently 210cca where a new H series 14 AGM is quoted at 220cca.

 

[JROCK]

Go with 20 series. Put one in the apex for this season. If you ride in quebec and see temps down to -30's its piece of mind. Lots of sleds including mine with the 14 series need a boost on those morings. I know when had the RX-1 in those temps i got lots of cranking out of the 20 series it had. Same goes for the wifes vector. 14 series not so much. Hoping that little extra reserve and CCA's will get it going on its own. I still keep my booster pack as back up.

 

[slimjim2525]

Absolutely go with the 2o series, the difference is very noticeable.

 

[o's srx]

I installed a 20 in mine at the start of last year while doing my oil change because I realized it was still the original OEM from '06! It still held a charge and worked great. I guess battery tenders do work.
I never got out on my sled last year to see if it made a difference.

 

[karlburns]

At -50F below stock battery did nothing. Same temperature with a 20 and I didn't havev to walk that time.

 

[CaptCaper]

I run the 20 flooded because I have a winch I can use if stuck. It's a tight fit but doable. I heated the top cover to soften it and forced it down to make it shape and cool to fit.

 

[PowderFalcon]

Can the 20 series be laid on its side like the odyssey PC545 for MPI super charger applications? Looking for more cold cranking amps than the battery supplied by MPI shown in the link below.

https://www.amazon.com/Odyssey-PC54...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=MT0FPYDP5905QD3BPXS2

 

[terez]

Well I went with a Yuasa YTX20H-BS agm battery. Not too cold here now but the sled turns over lickitysplit compared to the lil oem 14 series...even in mild temps.
Fit in the battery box no probs with the foam removed.

Sled should come this way IMO...

 

[terez]

This battery, 0/40 full synthetic and red relays.....if she don't start like this ......it'll get plenty warm on fire

 

[slowride06er]

[QhaveTE="terez, post: 1334585, member: 20955"]Well I went with a Yuasa YTX20H-BS agm battery. Not too cold here now but the sled turns over lickitysplit compared to the lil oem 14 series...even in mild temps.
Fit in the battery box no probs with the foam removed.

Sled should come this way IMO...[/QUOTE]
I have to ask are the post in the same way cables fit as they should?

 

[terez]

Yes the cables fit fine. Make sure you buy a battery with regular polarity and NOT a reverse polarity battery.

Reverse polarity batteries have an "L" designation.
It gets a lil confusing as the original RX1 used a 20 series battery but with reverse polarity.

 

[slowride06er]

Yes the cables fit fine. Make sure you buy a battery with regular polarity and NOT a reverse polarity battery.

Reverse polarity batteries have an "L" designation.
It gets a lil confusing as the original RX1 used a 20 series battery but with reverse polarity.

So what number battery would I need?

 

[terez]

I quoted it right in my earlier post

Yuasa YTX20H-BS Interstate make a similar battery with the same model number as well.


FYI....The "H" designation is for heavy duty and it is used on a variety of batteries. H models typically carry a bit more cca and are a pound or so hevier but are the exact same physical external dimensions., in the case of the 20 series the H model is 310cca where the non H model is 290cca.

Examples: YTX20-BS, YTX20H-BS, YTX20L-BS, TYX20HL-BS

SO to very clear.....All yrs Apex will take a 20 series battery and are regular polarity ( battery facing you looking at the terminals from the long side view the positive should be on your left and the negative on your right. Since you are going to a bigger heavier battery no reason not to go with the "H" series as well. Yuasa YTX20H-BS or Interstate YTX20H-BS. There are many other companies that make this style and size of battery too as well as regular lead cell batteries....but AGM batteries are superior in every way other than more expensive.....DO NOT go with a Lithium Ion battery....it will fail in cold weather.

 

[slowride06er]

I quoted it right in my earlier post

Yuasa YTX20H-BS Interstate make a similar battery with the same model number as well.


FYI....The "H" designation is for heavy duty and it is used on a variety of batteries. H models typically carry a bit more cca and are a pound or so hevier but are the exact same physical external dimensions., in the case of the 20 series the H model is 310cca where the non H model is 290cca.

Examples: YTX20-BS, YTX20H-BS, YTX20L-BS, TYX20HL-BS

SO to very clear.....All yrs Apex will take a 20 series battery and are regular polarity ( battery facing you looking at the terminals from the long side view the positive should be on your left and the negative on your right. Since you are going to a bigger heavier battery no reason not to go with the "H" series as well. Yuasa YTX20H-BS or Interstate YTX20H-BS. There are many other companies that make this style and size of battery too as well as regular lead cell batteries....but AGM batteries are superior in every way other than more expensive.....DO NOT go with a Lithium Ion battery....it will fail in cold weather.

Thank you for the information.