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APEX vs. MACH

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Bossman said:
And if Im not wrong Polaris won the Pro Stock Championship this past year in Sno X. Whats funny is they are just now trying to get the Mach Z to make 300 hp and live when the Yammi family is doing the same thing but making as much as 500+ hp. Thanks for joining the party!

Heres 400HP no NOS or turbo. Nos is next summer. It will be the 1/4 tar king.
 

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1 Steven Martin 18 Ski - Doo Evanston, WY 10 554
2 Carl Kuster 47 Ski - Doo Westlock, AB 10 512
3 Dennis Eckstrom 25 Polaris Duluth, MN 10 510
4 Robbie Malinoski 4 Arctic Cat Humboldt, SK 10 503
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Hmm last I checked I don't race in the WSA or on grass. I ride in the snow and on trails. My RX could do just about everything other manufacturers could do. Except that Doo handled better in the rough. With the Apex line that has changed.

So for you...
 

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Hey Doothedoo, if all you are going to do is spout reasons why you think BRP is better, why dont you go back to Dootalk.
If you want to talk about Yamahas, thats fine but if you are trying to show us that Doo is the best, please take it elsewhere.
Cap'n
 
doothedoo said:
Yamahnator said:
Hmm last I checked I don't race in the WSA or on grass. I ride in the snow and on trails. My RX could do just about everything other manufacturers could do. Except that Doo handled better in the rough. With the Apex line that has changed.

So for you...

Thats great news! Cant wait to see a yami in SnowX.

They already do genius. The vector is being raced in other venues and has done well. WSA however, has consistently refused to make a 4 stroke placement. More than a few of us have sent emails and called WSA directly so that we could race our RX's in local circuits.
 
doothedoo said:
Bender has a turbo kit for the Machz. There working on getting 300 hp out of it. There working on a new pipe for it because theres too much back pressure now. Nos can go anything. The Machz give you the option of porting, cans, and pipe for way less money then a 4 stroke. Either way your starting at 149 hp and the machz your starting with 175 hp.


Less money than a four stroke ? You'll be behind the 8 ball after the first engine blows up ..........! LOL

A turbo on a 2 stroke is like an old man on drugs .

2 stroke = Dinosaur Extinct they just don't know it yet.
 
Turbo Tim said:
doothedoo said:
Bender has a turbo kit for the Machz. There working on getting 300 hp out of it. There working on a new pipe for it because theres too much back pressure now. Nos can go anything. The Machz give you the option of porting, cans, and pipe for way less money then a 4 stroke. Either way your starting at 149 hp and the machz your starting with 175 hp.


Less money than a four stroke ? You'll be behind the 8 ball after the first engine blows up ..........! LOL

A turbo on a 2 stroke is like an old man on drugs .

2 stroke = Dinosaur Extinct they just don't know it yet.
 

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So far doothedoo,
You have shown a 4 cylinder something claiming it is 400 HP
no dyno no details, could be a photoshop for all we know.Then you say Bender has a proto turbo making 300HP.

Like we told you over and over but you just dont get it, our guys here who ride stock sleds will take their reliable 149 hp Apexs on 5 day bagger trips going over 1200 miles without even having to open the hood and are perfectly happy. Guys who want the big power can get Jeffs 550 HP turbo which you cant even touch with a 2 stroke. You are going to continue to have a hard time here posting the advantages of a 2 stroke. Many/most of the guys here have had 2 strokes and a number of them have come over from BRP and they wont go back anytime soon.

Thanks to our guys, who have been polite considering the circumstances.
This thread is now locked!!
 
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