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with it lowered like that what did you have in the shocks for air pressure? if any ....
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10900 - I have no washers on tips for my sled to get the rpms up that high. (I had to take them off from what it came like)pro116 said:
not sure where mayfield is. yes, that is a D&D, they were testing short drag runs while we were there.adirondac blue said:
I just googled mayfield, I have been to grass drags in Dolgvile & Salisbury. I would like to come down but I have doubles fri & sat., i get home 7am sun morning.
I have 144 up the middle. not enough for 0-40 on ice. i hit the flipper at even 40 and i fell it slip.AIRWOLF said:
144 1.375 studboysmilesu said:
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So ba apex are you or was you running supertips when you broke 120 ??You said the tip was empty,so you only had the heel loaded if they are S.T. what grams total were you at 65?? or more your rpms were 10,900 at the end of the run correct,was that your rtx with the 8" idler wheels and the two sets of slider wheels?? At any rate for such a big fella that was awsome speed,and its hard for big guys to duck behind that tampone of a windshield for some less drag lol see what i have been saying all along,weight means nothing on a long run,its wind resistance or drag that eats top speed off,cause last year i was like 280 suited up and my buddy was like 170 and we could run same top speed,but the big differance was take off,i could get him on hole shot,than he peddles on by in mid and we run even on top. 
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Ran 118 on radar with my sled with supertips loaded in the heel and nothing in the tip.RPM about 10900.Also loosened the sec up a bit. This was on an Ulmer stage2 kit.
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BA APEX, what did your buddy do to lower the front end of his GT. Mine sits alot higher than that.
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we have lowered my buds GT to bottom of threads,and it sits pretty low,but not nearly as low as my RTX slammed,with under 10 lbs pressure....belly about touches,be careful.
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not sure if your talking about machzed's sled or mine. I was running 45psi that day. I have ran as low as 20, didn't see any difference, but they were diff. days also...AIRWOLF said:
there is weight on the heal but i'm not sure how much. I got the kit, tried it the way it came, then took the tip washers off to get up to 10900rpms.mnmsnowbeast said:
usually a rider 100 or more less than me gets 1.5-2mph more, but now that i concentrate on wind resistance more, the gap is closer. hell, i can't see a thing with my face shield on the gas tank, the guy with the gun better have traction to get out of the way if needed. ha ha Thats why some runs I'm too far away from the gun, I have to check a few times to be sure where i'm headed. the bar pad is off now so i can see where I am going a little better.
like you said difference in the rider weight is noticed mostly 40-90mph range.
sounds like the same setup as in my sled.fourload said:
not sure what he did??SledFreak said:
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O.K. here we go.
Tuesday 3-21 I took the vid(see link first post) of BA coming down the lake and hitting 120 mph on the gun.It does show 120 but its very hard to see because of the sun glare.Sorry.
I took the pictures at the lake except the one of the RTX and GT with me standing beside it.Nice pic BA,THANKS!!
I took these pics in part to show that most of us are serious about this
radar stuff when we want to be,even though its still playing around and for fun.It doesn`t matter if someone and their sled is faster.If I wanted to be the fastest I would have the biggest turbo out there on race gas,stud the thing up and have at it.
The sleds and trailers you see are only about half of what was there.
Big numbers put up for the shorter run that was set up.660'.
A little history-Back in Feb on a trail ride we hit the reservoir on tug hill.
My unstudded Gt gave BA`s RTX sled and others a 10-12 sled length lead
and I ran BA down and put 5 more on his RTX and was on the lead
RTX snowflap when we had to let off after about a mile.
Ulmer stage 2 was in my GT that day.
Next day BA gets a Ulmer stage 2.
I take the GT and run radar in Feb with the Supertips and put up a 122.2mph that I`ll stick to for fear of getting lashed at for the higher speeds.
Last Fri 3-17-06---BA adjusts the Supertips more like mine,we add my windage plates,new belt etc,etc,grab the gun and head to the Lake.
BA is tucking and ducking for all he can get and puts up a 118 mph!!
I had to move about 10 feet one time to keep from being run over as he was not letting off for nothing!!Not even for some guy in the middle of the lake holding a radar gun.
I hop on and at about 195lbs put up a 120 mph.
Already an improvement over his previous best of about 114+ mph and
118 mph top speed with 140 lb driver.At some point I removed the
handlebar pad as it was too tempting for myself and BA to peak at the speedo and tach and without the pad I could see between the bar and cables and sneak a peek.Think pop your head up --lose speed!!!
I believe the softer rear spring was back in now.
Sat 3-18-06--BA puts up a 118.5 mph I believe and I did a 119.5 mph.
I would consider Sat somewhat of a slower day.
Tues 3-21-06 BA puts up a 120 mph!!!I only reached 119mph with me on it.Got the sled to be pretty consistant over the three days.
BA`s RTX is running good now.
Yes radar gains were made on BA`s RTX just as gains were made with my GT a few weeks before using some of the same components etc.
BA`s sled now--
Another RTX and my GT have been going backwards from our higher speeds.We are trying alot of things from machined clutches to less studs,
pulling the strap up more or less,different weights,ride height etc.Not everything works in certain combinations thats why its called testing
to find what works and what is a waste of time.
What would I change?My GT or any Apex needs at least 144 studs IMO.The sleds with 144 studs, BA`s and others,still spin and spin on take off.I tried 120 studs for various reasons.Wrong move for me as I need all the hookup I can get to get started down the track so the speed can start climbing and not let the track slip.Even with BA on my sled it didn`t go and he said he felt the track vibrating,differently than his RTX.My clutch was 10700-10800.Its not running as high rpms as before.
Airwolf---
Other RTX did put more air in his floats and said it went faster than fully bottomed or almost fully bottomed out.
Guy on F-cat said same thing.
Sledfreak--
Fourload--
My GT front is lowered by just the springs lose all the way.
At the bay on a previous day a RTX ran a 25 gear and I was faster.
This was a great day to pull the gear but it didn`t.
BA`s sled can now give some (most)sleds the--
Tuesday 3-21 I took the vid(see link first post) of BA coming down the lake and hitting 120 mph on the gun.It does show 120 but its very hard to see because of the sun glare.Sorry.
I took the pictures at the lake except the one of the RTX and GT with me standing beside it.Nice pic BA,THANKS!!
I took these pics in part to show that most of us are serious about this
radar stuff when we want to be,even though its still playing around and for fun.It doesn`t matter if someone and their sled is faster.If I wanted to be the fastest I would have the biggest turbo out there on race gas,stud the thing up and have at it.
The sleds and trailers you see are only about half of what was there.
Big numbers put up for the shorter run that was set up.660'.
A little history-Back in Feb on a trail ride we hit the reservoir on tug hill.
My unstudded Gt gave BA`s RTX sled and others a 10-12 sled length lead
and I ran BA down and put 5 more on his RTX and was on the lead
RTX snowflap when we had to let off after about a mile.
Ulmer stage 2 was in my GT that day.
Next day BA gets a Ulmer stage 2.
I take the GT and run radar in Feb with the Supertips and put up a 122.2mph that I`ll stick to for fear of getting lashed at for the higher speeds.
Last Fri 3-17-06---BA adjusts the Supertips more like mine,we add my windage plates,new belt etc,etc,grab the gun and head to the Lake.
BA is tucking and ducking for all he can get and puts up a 118 mph!!
I had to move about 10 feet one time to keep from being run over as he was not letting off for nothing!!Not even for some guy in the middle of the lake holding a radar gun.
I hop on and at about 195lbs put up a 120 mph.
Already an improvement over his previous best of about 114+ mph and
118 mph top speed with 140 lb driver.At some point I removed the
handlebar pad as it was too tempting for myself and BA to peak at the speedo and tach and without the pad I could see between the bar and cables and sneak a peek.Think pop your head up --lose speed!!!
I believe the softer rear spring was back in now.
Sat 3-18-06--BA puts up a 118.5 mph I believe and I did a 119.5 mph.
I would consider Sat somewhat of a slower day.
Tues 3-21-06 BA puts up a 120 mph!!!I only reached 119mph with me on it.Got the sled to be pretty consistant over the three days.
BA`s RTX is running good now.
Yes radar gains were made on BA`s RTX just as gains were made with my GT a few weeks before using some of the same components etc.
BA`s sled now--
Another RTX and my GT have been going backwards from our higher speeds.We are trying alot of things from machined clutches to less studs,
pulling the strap up more or less,different weights,ride height etc.Not everything works in certain combinations thats why its called testing
to find what works and what is a waste of time.
What would I change?My GT or any Apex needs at least 144 studs IMO.The sleds with 144 studs, BA`s and others,still spin and spin on take off.I tried 120 studs for various reasons.Wrong move for me as I need all the hookup I can get to get started down the track so the speed can start climbing and not let the track slip.Even with BA on my sled it didn`t go and he said he felt the track vibrating,differently than his RTX.My clutch was 10700-10800.Its not running as high rpms as before.
Airwolf---
Other RTX did put more air in his floats and said it went faster than fully bottomed or almost fully bottomed out.
Guy on F-cat said same thing.
Sledfreak--
Fourload--
My GT front is lowered by just the springs lose all the way.
At the bay on a previous day a RTX ran a 25 gear and I was faster.
This was a great day to pull the gear but it didn`t.
BA`s sled can now give some (most)sleds the--
fourload
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Great info here.I think some people might not believe these speeds but I have run very similar speeds 118+ with a very similar clutch setup and windage plates.Thanks for the 25gear info also,guess I don,t need to waste the time and money experimenting with it.
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Ice cleats or spikes for my boots would be a good idea!!!
Found out my heart can stop whenever a sled comes at me
at high speed.
I need to be able to move faster when a 550 lb sled
with a 300 lb driver is coming at me doing 118-120 mph.
I`m 195 lb with only a radar gun,on patchy snow to glare ice,
you do the math!!
Several times while holding the gun I would see this missile coming at me :twisted: and think to myself-
Why is he not turning turning a little to the right? :?:
I then step to the right.
How about a little more to the right please as I step right again.
O.K. now its not funny.More steps,trying not to slip as I go.
Now I`m safe. Not!
Holy crap!!Left the Bat belt at home!!!
Think fast!!Don`t panic.Got it!!!Take bullseye off chest and really bust a move to the right. I`m outta here!!
BA is still duckin and tuckin missing the show I`m putting on.
On the ice I moved like those kids did on the other side of the gym in school when myself and two other kids got ready to throw the little red balls playing dodgeball.With the little red ones we inflicted pain!!!
Found out my heart can stop whenever a sled comes at me
at high speed.
I need to be able to move faster when a 550 lb sled
with a 300 lb driver is coming at me doing 118-120 mph.
I`m 195 lb with only a radar gun,on patchy snow to glare ice,
you do the math!!
Several times while holding the gun I would see this missile coming at me :twisted: and think to myself-
Why is he not turning turning a little to the right? :?:
I then step to the right.
How about a little more to the right please as I step right again.
O.K. now its not funny.More steps,trying not to slip as I go.
Now I`m safe. Not!
Holy crap!!Left the Bat belt at home!!!
Think fast!!Don`t panic.Got it!!!Take bullseye off chest and really bust a move to the right.
I`m outta here!!BA is still duckin and tuckin missing the show I`m putting on.
On the ice I moved like those kids did on the other side of the gym in school when myself and two other kids got ready to throw the little red balls playing dodgeball.With the little red ones we inflicted pain!!!
yam182,great info,do u have something else besides a clucth kit,u said u can spot BA a 10 sled length lead and catch him...was his sled running ok,becuz i raced a rev800 powertech(amongst other sleds) clutched and studded and i can run him down...u spot me 10 lengths both our sleds stock except for your clucth kit,your not gonna catch me..u must have one awsome kit.fill me in
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nothing special or secret-
more info-
www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php?t=26944
BA APEX`s sled now rocks and it was nice to see the gains made as he went along.
I steered him a little at first and he hit on something that works for him and his sled.
Last Saturday when we ran radar I did a 119.5 mph on BA`s RTX and he did a 118.5 mph I believe,but just to compare,I recently found out a 2006 Mach-Z that was there only did a 118.5 mph!!!
Just amazing that BA was able to go from 114+ mph wide open for a mile or so on ice as his best speed to 120 mph as his new best!!
For as big as he is,laying down and tucking in behind the windshield and bars is very tough if not impossible.But hes on a weight lose plan that makes him go faster.
Just wait till next year, he`ll be faster!!
Some simple clutching,wheels you already know,NO RAM AIR stuff added,no gearing,NO ENGINE mods.
Sorry,but its not ALL in the clutching!!!
Make sure you watch the first video in the first post by BA.
Must see!!
Turned out good enough for the camera I have and first time using it.
As soon as I turned the camera on he was already doing 119 mph but its hard to see.Top speed was 120.
Glad I caught it on camera and I`m sure BA is too!!!
nothing special or secret-
more info-
www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php?t=26944
BA APEX`s sled now rocks and it was nice to see the gains made as he went along.
I steered him a little at first and he hit on something that works for him and his sled.
Last Saturday when we ran radar I did a 119.5 mph on BA`s RTX and he did a 118.5 mph I believe,but just to compare,I recently found out a 2006 Mach-Z that was there only did a 118.5 mph!!!
Just amazing that BA was able to go from 114+ mph wide open for a mile or so on ice as his best speed to 120 mph as his new best!!
For as big as he is,laying down and tucking in behind the windshield and bars is very tough if not impossible.But hes on a weight lose plan that makes him go faster.
Just wait till next year, he`ll be faster!!
Some simple clutching,wheels you already know,NO RAM AIR stuff added,no gearing,NO ENGINE mods.
Sorry,but its not ALL in the clutching!!!
Make sure you watch the first video in the first post by BA.
Must see!!
Turned out good enough for the camera I have and first time using it.
As soon as I turned the camera on he was already doing 119 mph but its hard to see.Top speed was 120.
Glad I caught it on camera and I`m sure BA is too!!!
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Dan I don't think you will need a new chaincase if you remove the reverse in it. Taking stuff out should be no problem and I think I read on one of these forums that someone already did it.
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jds1000 said:
there is one smaller bolt which goes thru the case,which has a sealer on it,i know if i remove those sliding gears in there this bolt will have nothing to screw into...so im not sure what to do with that hole?..
also,if i remove bottom gear extras,do i just put bolt back in with the big spring on it to hold it on?..
has anyone actualy removed the REVERSE extras from a stock chaincase and rode it?...if so please let me know exactly what you did.
thanks
dan
