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was told by my dealer some of the differences

Yam-solid chain case adjuster
Cat-spring chain case adjuster
Yam clutches and belt
Yam skies
yam gearing
probably more ,anyone find other
 

The yamaha comes with just single carbide runners. 7000 comes with dually runners. I have an ltx se my buddy has an xf7000. Both with the 137" track. We ran them for an hour today and by the end of the time where we had the snow packed you could tell the viper was gonna have some darting issues. No darting on the cat
 
Not that it is a huge issue but when we backed both sleds in my garage the viper backed up perfect and could steer like on snow. Cat just say there and spun on dry concrete cuz the duallys would cut in and hold the sled from going backwards
 
Well all us guys waiting for vipers or snow wants to hear the results...??!? Was one faster exc...is the only different between the two duelys ski wise?
 
Was either or both of the sleds studded!
 
apexxtx said:
was told by my dealer some of the differences

Yam-solid chain case adjuster
Cat-spring chain case adjuster
Yam clutches and belt
Yam skies
yam gearing
probably more ,anyone find other
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Pretty sure the only thing that is actually different in that list is the clutches. I believe Arctic Cat also announced that the 7000 series sleds would be using the manual chain adjuster with a Borg Warner chain and billet gears. It is possible the gearing is slightly different since the clutches are different. I'm not sure about that one.

The main differences are 1) hood/headlight/windshield design 2) clutches 3) Vipers appear to come with a radiator guard that is not on the Cats.

There might be a few other minor details, but honestly I think that's about it. Although die hard Yamaha fans might not want to admit it, the Viper is a re-badged ProCross with a few unique features.

Regardless it should be a good sled and hopefully help Yamaha re-enter the market with some new designs in the future.
 
yamajammer76 said:
Although die hard Yamaha fans might not want to admit it, the Viper is a re-badged ProCross with a few unique features.

Regardless it should be a good sled and hopefully help Yamaha re-enter the market with some new designs in the future.
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The problem with this quote is, its only true if the ProCross came with a Yammi motor last year. I dont think there is a Yamaha fan on here that thinks its a Yamaha through and through, we all know its a merge between the two companies. And I think your right, it should turn out to be a good sled all around!
 
Its a ProCross done right we hope. Cripes there is at least a hundred differences from any ProCross that was offered last year. Yammajammer think of a 7000 cat as a rebadged Yamaha and you will be much closer to reality.
 
cannondale27 said:
Its a ProCross done right we hope. Cripes there is at least a hundred differences from any ProCross that was offered last year. Yammajammer think of a 7000 cat as a rebadged Yamaha and you will be much closer to reality.
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I'm not doubting that there were many improvements made over last year, but to think that those same improvements have not been applied to the AC models doesn't make sense and that is basically what the OP was trying to say. I personally don't think Yamaha had any input on the original design of this chassis. Now they probably had some input on the improvements, but I doubt the project ever left the shores of this country. The Viper is a product of Thief River Falls with input from Pleasant Prairie. There is nothing wrong with that. It seems to work and I think it will work well enough we will see more Yamacat models in the future.

Now IF Arctic Cat had agreed to build the Viper and there was no Yamaha powered model in Cat's line-up this would have been HUGE, but there is no way that would have ever happened.

Arctic Cat just had a pretty tough quarter financially and when you compare the market caps of Polaris and Arctic Cat you start to see how easy a hostile take over attempt by Polaris would be. I honestly believe this partnership is about more then just engines and chassis. It provides Arctic Cat with some insurance against Polaris. It's sort of like the smallest kid in the class becoming friends with the biggest kid so the middle sized kid doesn't beat him up.

It's sort of nice to see the two small players in the snowmobile market team up to take on the big two. I wish them well because I think it's time those two get some serious competition.
 
TestMaster said:
Was either or both of the sleds studded!
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Neither sled had studs. Both were 100% stock. As far as faster I have no idea as we did not hold them long but in this case here the cat seemed to feel more powerful even tho the viper was able to jump a 1/2 to a full sled length in only 200-300 feet. And it's safe to say that the 7000 didn't seem like it was going to catch back up. Now 2 different sleds could show the exact opposite in sure but it's lookin good for the viper so far.
 
Since I have been riding sleds, Arctic Cat has used engines from:
JLO
Sachs
Hirth
Wankle
Kawasaki
Suzuki
and now Yamaha...just to name a few!

Of course the new Viper is an Arctic Cat with a Yamaha engine...if it hits your mark for the sled you want ..Great...but like a Ford with a Chevy engine is still a Ford...an Arctic Cat with a Yamaha engine is still an Arctic Cat!
 
If your extremely bored waiting on snow check out the on-line owner's manual for the Viper. It is a "Cat format" manual and they did a pretty darn good job scrubbing everything Arctic Cat out of it except for one place... Where they talk about the 6000 having an exhaust temperature feature on the instrument cluster. Oops! LOL
 
Do you guys realize that Yamaha has its motors made by another company? So does Ford.chevy and dodge. To avoid confusion and to give us a bit of lost pride back I would like to see Yamaha buy AC. Probably not going to happen but would be nice if both were left intact and help each other.
 
cannondale27 said:
Do you guys realize that Yamaha has its motors made by another company? So does Ford.chevy and dodge. To avoid confusion and to give us a bit of lost pride back I would like to see Yamaha buy AC. Probably not going to happen but would be nice if both were left intact and help each other.
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Really? I always thought Yamaha was a "motor" company first and foremost. If they are not building their own engines who is building them? I understand certain components are outsourced and then assembled into the basic block, but I'm pretty sure Yamaha builds the engine.

I can't comment on Chevy or Dodge, but my Explorer 3.5 V6 says "Ford Engine Plant Lima, Ohio" on a tag on the engine. I'm pretty sure that Ford builds all of their own engines with most North American engines coming from Cleveland OH, Lima OH, and Windsor Ontario. Components on those engines might be outsourced, but the engine itself is built by Ford.
 
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