Vector1
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It was only 5 today, the coldest its been so far this season and the hand warmers on both my 08 Nytro and 08 Phazer were almost worthless. About every 15 minutes we had to stop and warm our hands up on the exhaust. When will Yamaha ever get this right?
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My warmers work great on my Nytro,Almost to hott.

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What type of gloves do you use? My hands have been cold on every yamaha I have had (02 viper and my 03 rx) but I think it may be my gloves, they are leather yamaha's and I'm going to try to a thinner glove to actually feel the warmer. My 03 RX is supposed to have burners on them and I am barely comfortable with them on high at 20 degrees. I frost bit my hands a few years ago so they are sensitive to the cold now though.

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Mine work fine, I have ha dto turn them down.


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ive had all kinds of gloves and none are warm enough for sledding,youre fingers are isolated from each other so you lose all the heat,i have gauntlets on both my warrior and phazer and now i could almost run bare hands
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kinger said:What type of gloves do you use? My hands have been cold on every yamaha I have had (02 viper and my 03 rx) but I think it may be my gloves, they are leather yamaha's and I'm going to try to a thinner glove to actually feel the warmer. My 03 RX is supposed to have burners on them and I am barely comfortable with them on high at 20 degrees. I frost bit my hands a few years ago so they are sensitive to the cold now though.
Yes, gloves can make a difference. While I have no complaints with my '06 Vector, my previous Arctic Cat Z was a different story. It had only an on/off switch for the grip warmers. As my leather CKX gloves got older, they lost a lot of their insulation on the palm side. My hands were too cold with the grip warmers off and too hot with them on. I blamed the machine for not having adjustable grip warmers, then I got different gloves. Having more insulation between me and the grips allowed me to leave the grip warmers on without my hands getting too hot. I'm still using these $10 gloves on my Yamaha and have no problems keeping my hands comfortable. I wonder if some of the people that experience cold hands would benefit from thinner gloves. I have a brother-in-law that always rides with 99 cent jersey gloves and doesn't get cold hands.
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I'm up in the U.P. riding with three sleds, two 08' Nytro RTX's and one 07' F6 Sno Pro. It's was cold as...(-5) well you get it, with heavy lake effect last night. My 06' Apex with stock bars and wiring, other than my gloves freezing and becoming stiff it was bareable. One Nytro, cold but bareable, earlier in the day he said he was turning down the heaters. The other Nytro, froze his hands off the first two days. I think he was ready to give thsled back. He bought Gaunlets as a last ditch effort to save his fingers, problem solved. He said it's the best thing he's done to the sled so far. The F6, he had them on high all day and said he was fine but supprised how he needed high all day.
Basically it was cold and any sled was struggling. The difference is, not being hot and freezing. The not as not as I would like is at least bareable. Were as the freezing can ruin a trip and become a frostbite concern. When you can't warm your hands back up from having to remove your gloves it's a problem.
It seems to me the exposure and lack of insulation on the bars is the man reason for the heat issues. I think the bars loos more heat than they create. So with that there are two options, increase outout, ideal as you wouldn't have to buy a bunch of extras, or insulate and protect the bars from the wind/cold.
Basically it was cold and any sled was struggling. The difference is, not being hot and freezing. The not as not as I would like is at least bareable. Were as the freezing can ruin a trip and become a frostbite concern. When you can't warm your hands back up from having to remove your gloves it's a problem.
It seems to me the exposure and lack of insulation on the bars is the man reason for the heat issues. I think the bars loos more heat than they create. So with that there are two options, increase outout, ideal as you wouldn't have to buy a bunch of extras, or insulate and protect the bars from the wind/cold.


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well said,we rode 110 miles yesterday,temp was -20f and never did i get cold hands thanks to my gauntlets,
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I haver been hearing about poor hand warmers on Yamaha's for years. Now that I have switched from yellow to blue I can't say that I have any issues with the handwarmers. It takes a little longer to get to temp than my previous Doos but after that they keep my hands toasty. I wear fairly thin leather work gloves generally but decided to try a pair of high end mitt type leather gloves that I had bought a few years ago the other night. I only used them for a while. While the mitts themselves were warm I could not feel the heat from the warmers at all so maybe there is something to wearing thinner gloves. Worst thing about these cuffs though is that they were just too bulky for my taste.
welterracer
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Having a TALL windshield is a HUGE factor for solving the cold hand problem.. IF the wind is hitting your hands and bars, its keeping them from warming up..
all these guys with the short windshields complain about having cold hands.. I WONDER WHY.. LOL
all these guys with the short windshields complain about having cold hands.. I WONDER WHY.. LOL
ApexSS
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My right fingers are the only ones that get really cold. Not sure why but I'm going to try and use a mitt on that hand and glove on other for cold days which is on it's way here.
chadman
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What about wrapping the exposed metal on the bars, is that what you guys are talking about? I think that the heat is getting sucked out from under the warmers.
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chadman said:What about wrapping the exposed metal on the bars, is that what you guys are talking about? I think that the heat is getting sucked out from under the warmers.
Although the Rage has a handle bar pad, after reading the compaints about the Apex back when our 06's were new I insulated ours. There is is a bit of bar exposed next to the controls on each side, so I rapped the bars from controls to under the pad aways with that foil bubble type insulation. Not sure if it helped because it's always been there. I think I also poked some foam into the bars via the little hole in the end of the grip. I only wear glove and ride up to -30C ( -21F ), after that I take my mitts along, but have yet to use them.
i'm with everyone who talked up gauntlets.i have a cheap pair of thin gauntlets and even thinner jersey gloves. I'm yet to have cold hands and we ride in -30 occasionally with my warmers on never more than half way. If you can get the wind off your hands it's very easy to keep them warm

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Lot of guys use insulating blow foam inside the bars,
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