Curve skis.....scathing review

[BigTime]

I've had a somewhat similar experience with the curves as well. Great looking ski, great customer service, but I could not get them right for my styles of riding (mostly trail). It's kind of an expensive option, but my C&A xtx skis with 9" deuce bars have really helped some of the handling woes on my Nytro. Very minimal darting with the deuce bars and all sorts of grip in the corners with the C&As. Just my experience though.

 

[BombaPolaYama]

When the ski is turned and starts to un hook dual anything fills with snow and pushes. Like having a flat plate under the ski.

So the dual keel snow trackers would also push in the corners?

 

[shadow44]

While testing for my XC racing set up I tried many combinations of different skis and skags, flipping the rubbers, trying different suspension set ups and at the end of the day the set up that worked best for me was stock '08 Yamaha Nytro RTX skis. The stock skis were the most consistent set up for riding on packed down trails. Like was mentioned, darting was the worst on trails that had frozen hard with lots of ski ruts in them. The stock skis offered the lightest steering effort and when you had the right amount of ski pressure dialed in, they took corners the most predictably as well. But, like I always mention when I post about skis, if you do any off trail riding the older stock skis are too narrow at 5" wide and they knife in, don't float and make a heavy Yamaha feel like it weighs a lot more.

The Curve skis are not a magic elixer for the Nytro. But, no ski is. The problem with the Nytro is the terrible front end geometry and too much transfer. No ski is going to fix that. The Curves did turn really nice when there was a little bit of fluff or loose snow on a trail. If you want less darting run some Deuce bars or something similar for a lot less money than aftermarket skis. The problem with the dual skag products is they are give and take. You give up cornering precision (they push) to gain less darting. The Yamaha tuner skis are dual skag and if they are wider than 5" a lot of guys might find that set up is the way to go if darting is your #1 complaint. I've not tried a set but have ridden other dual skag skis and they all push in the corners when ridden aggressively.

I should add with all the testing I've done I spent my own money on skis and skags so I've got nothing to gain here. IMO, if you need more floatation for off trail I'd buy a set of Yamaha ski bottoms that are wider simply because its a less expensive route to go. The mountain sleds and the VK Pro use wider skis.

You should try Split Rails AK....they are the perfect match for a Nytro. I've tried them on a Rush, Doo XP and Nytro and while they work well on all of those sleds, they are so perfect on a Nytro it's scary.

 

[AKrider]

When the ski is turned and starts to un hook dual anything fills with snow and pushes. Like having a flat plate under the ski.

So the dual keel snow trackers would also push in the corners?

Yes, that is the nature of the dual keel or skag design. I believe they even mentioned the pushing the the latest issue of American Snowmobiler when they tested the Nytro with tuner skis. I first experienced the issue back in the 90's when I tried out an XLT with Simmons flex skis. Those skis are dual skag and have a concave ski bottom. They filled up with snow and the sled didn't turn well.

Dual anything is a compromise in that to reduce darting you have to give up cornering precision. For me the darting wasn't much of an issue with the Deltabox chassis. On the Nytro it is most certainly an issue but its not a ski issue, its a front end geometry, chassis and suspension issue with no 100% cure.

I saw the Split rail skis when they first came out and they sound like they work well for some guys. The Split Rails wouldn't be my choice for deep snow riding. Ideally I want to ski that works everywhere, is wide enough to float the front end in deep snow, handles well on a hard pack trail and doesn't dart. Both of my Polaris sleds handle just fine stock, with stock skis. There is no reason Yamaha can't produce something the same way. I'm currently not in the market for aftermarket skis for my Polaris's, Yamaha should be the same situation IMO.

 

[Sno-Xr]

While I know there can always be general improvements with what ever mods you are doing..... Ive never chased the ski issues that so many try to perfect.

Snow conditions change day to day, morning to afternoon and into the night. You can make drastic handling changes by simply adjusting ski spring preload,transfer settings, or limiter strap settings. All on the side of the trail and without spending 4 to 6 hundred dollars for a guessing game that wont work for all conditions anyways..

Good luck with what ever you chose to do

Where the heck is the snow......lets ride!!

 

[blue er]

I have curves and i am happy with them they have slightly more darting in some conditions than oem with woodys slim jims but do steer easier corner better and float better, and there 10000x better than oem with a single carbide.
got mine at the toronto show last year and the difference in price was huge curve skis with rubbers carbides mount kit as like 460 out the door, my oem skis were worn out at 119 each and the slim jims were 169 each rubbers from dealer were 20 bux

 

[kviper]

When the ski is turned and starts to un hook dual anything fills with snow and pushes. Like having a flat plate under the ski.

So the dual keel snow trackers would also push in the corners?

The SnowTrrackers for the stock Yamaha ski's are not dual keel!
They do not push infact some say they bit to well!

 

[Sno-Xr]

The SnowTrrackers for the stock Yamaha ski's are not dual keel!
They do not push infact some say they bit to well!

The bar itself is not, but with the corrector blades, they are basically dual keel. But the corrector blades mount towards the front of the ski, so Im sure they dont react quite the same compared to a full length dual keel ski.

 

[BombaPolaYama]

The SnowTrrackers for the stock Yamaha ski's are not dual keel!
They do not push infact some say they bit to well!

The bar itself is not, but with the corrector blades, they are basically dual keel. But the corrector blades mount towards the front of the ski, so Im sure they dont react quite the same compared to a full length dual keel ski.

Yeah, it was the corrector blades I was thinking of but didn't realize they didn't go full length.

 

[kviper]

The defuser ends just behind the leading edge of the blade so if you are going to look at it as each blade being a keel it would be triple. Also the blade is taller than the defuser.
They DO NOT PUSH and they DO NOT TRACK!

 

[Sno-Xr]

The defuser ends just behind the leading edge of the blade so if you are going to look at it as each blade being a keel it would be triple. Also the blade is taller than the defuser.
They DO NOT PUSH and they DO NOT TRACK!

Wow,,splitting hairs are we? Not sure anyone said the snowtrackers push or track, so settle down there

 

[kviper]

First off some one was wondering why a dual keel will push, I explained why. Then someone questioned the Tracker's as a dual keel and will push when they are not dual keel. Than you call three blades a dual keel?

Sorry, It just gets old trying to help someone and always having someone trying to prove there overwhelming knowledge.

I own several set's of Tracker's, I know how they are built!

You put your .02 in on how I was supposedly wrong first!

 

[BombaPolaYama]

First off some one was wondering why a dual keel will push, I explained why. Then someone questioned the Tracker's as a dual keel and will push when they are not dual keel. Than you call three blades a dual keel?

Sorry, It just gets old trying to help someone and always having someone trying to prove there overwhelming knowledge.

I own several set's of Tracker's, I know how they are built!

You put your .02 in on how I was supposedly wrong first!

Having a bad day there are you? I wasn't trying to prove anything or question your overwhelming knowledge. I didn't say the trackers pushed - just asked a honest question.

 

[Sno-Xr]

Read my post again, I was only adding to what you were saying so Bomba would be clear about the point you were making about them not being the same as a real dual keel setup,because with all YOUR overwhelming knowledge, you were pretty vague.
I wasnt saying you were wrong at all, you jumped to conclusions.

 

[kviper]

The SnowTrrackers for the stock Yamaha ski's are not dual keel!
They do not push infact some say they bit to well!

The bar itself is not, but with the corrector blades, they are basically dual keel. But the corrector blades mount towards the front of the ski, so Im sure they dont react quite the same compared to a full length dual keel ski.

The bar itself is not, but with the corrector blades, they are basically dual keel. Your quote! I don't think I jumped to conclusion's at all, you are now trying to back pedal.

Bompa, not having a bad day at all! Simply pointed out to you that they are not dual keel! Bad day for you? Go back and read my response to your post again. The second time your question came up I simply pointed out my response to you to
Sno-xr. Don't worry I won't ever try to help you again! OK you guys win, Your all way smarter than me!
One is two two is three or how ever you see it to correct me. Talk about splitting hair's. LOL

Seriously, have a nice night!