MADDOG24
Expert
Curves work great on my 06 RTX. Way better than stock , dart less and float well.
BETHEVIPER
Lifetime Member
You must be wrong, the magic ski takes the single carbide, then sprinkles fairy dust on it. This makes it magically float over the trail, never to dart again.
Later, a couple years later, the fairy dust wore off and magically, there was a new 100$ item, that you bought with your carbides that replaced the fairy dust that used to make the skis not dart.
One thing is for sure, if you make a product that does what is sold to do, there is never any need for customer service of any kind. Selling a product that doesn't do what it said it could sure gives lots of opportunity for good customer service.
Skepticism is a virtue
Later, a couple years later, the fairy dust wore off and magically, there was a new 100$ item, that you bought with your carbides that replaced the fairy dust that used to make the skis not dart.
One thing is for sure, if you make a product that does what is sold to do, there is never any need for customer service of any kind. Selling a product that doesn't do what it said it could sure gives lots of opportunity for good customer service.
Skepticism is a virtue
I bought the Curve Skis from the boys at Hay Days 2 years ago and couldn't be happier....not only with the product but their service as well. The two of them are as down to earth as you could want. I was surprised that they actualy remembered me teh following year at the Hay Days booth. Asked if I had any issues with their product and showed true concern. Excellent product beter people!
BigShow29
Pro
I wanted white skis.. Didnt care which brand...
Bought Curves couldnt be happier.. I drive FAST and they provide way more grip in the corners.....
Bought Curves couldnt be happier.. I drive FAST and they provide way more grip in the corners.....
Windogg
Veteran
I just bought a set last night from the curve website. Can't wait til they get here.
Irv
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LJ 452
TY 4 Stroke God
BETHEVIPER said:You must be wrong, the magic ski takes the single carbide, then sprinkles fairy dust on it. This makes it magically float over the trail, never to dart again.
Later, a couple years later, the fairy dust wore off and magically, there was a new 100$ item, that you bought with your carbides that replaced the fairy dust that used to make the skis not dart.
One thing is for sure, if you make a product that does what is sold to do, there is never any need for customer service of any kind. Selling a product that doesn't do what it said it could sure gives lots of opportunity for good customer service.
Skepticism is a virtue
While I understand you didn't have a good experience with the Curve's I will say I DO believe in great customer service, regardless of the product. Want to see the difference first hand, order a set of Bergstroms, wait the year that it takes to get them and let me know how that goes, make several calls, with either no answer or "I waiting for carbide", rally. Bergstroms are a nice product but what good does it do you if you can't get it or get a hold of the manufacture to get it.
There are so many settings that determine how a sled will handle it's crazy. I think many change fifteen things then order something that is suppose to "HELP" and because there setup is sooo screwed up it leaves them feeling that they have not received the product they anticipated. Sorry but anyone who thinks they are going to bolt on any product and it's going to solve all problems and require zero tuning is just smoking the peace pipe. That's were the customer service comes in, they are willing to help anyone with tuning out residual issues, quite frankly these are issues related to chassis and sled design more than anything. Yamaha sleds are and have always been more difficult to dial in, don't agree, read the three-thousand posts that cover every model they've made on "How to get my XXX sled to handle". How about you call the dealership, and or Yamaha and tell them about the handing issues with you stock sled, let me know how that works out for you.
As for the leading edge, I never got one as I did not feel I needed them, then again I also ran 7.5-9 shaper's on my Nytro, darting was rare and only worsen'd as the ball joints and other steering component's started to fail. My guess is that the leading edge was released to attempt to aid the less aggressive riders that wanted to reduce the darting even more. I don't quite understand why offering a product to improve your existing product is a crime. Seems like clutching setups and fuel maps change on a weekly basis, does that mean the they should also offer those for free, really it's called R&D, it's constantly changing. Yamaha seems to follow your protocol though, just say it's fine and never fix any flaws or improve on it till a new release, Nytro, hand warmers, tunnel icing, donuts, etc.
Getting Carbides for the Curves is probably as easy as it gets, as mentioned they use C&A bolt patterns, not sure were you shop for stuff but even when buying online I could have them at my door in three days. If your after any special brand or design then I could understand a bit of delay but not to the extent your having, seems like I'm missing part of the story.
When checking the Toe, you may want to inspect the front end and all steering components, there are about six rod ends that connect the bars to the main link, then several more from there, again not the best design for handling. Any wear and you're wasting your time trying to dial things in. Also determine the bump-steer, the Nytro is bad, Phazer is absolutely horrible, but I'm honestly not sure about the Apex, based on the look and angles it should be too bad, but if the ski alignment changes dependent on position in the travel you will want to make sure to set it up at the nominal location. Setting it up a full droop will do nothing to help if it changes by an inch at mid travel.
BombaPolaYama
TY 4 Stroke Master
I know this is not a post about Bergstrom's, but since you brought it up I have to have a say. I know from reading posts here that there were many problems with contacting Scott B. in previous years but I can only speak from my experience this year. I called him and he called me back almost right away after missing my call. I ordered two pairs and one set were the wrong type so I called him again and there was absolutely no problem to return them and I had the new ones in a few days with the return shipping refunded. Although pricey carbides, I cannot complain with my ordering experience and I think that I received top notch service.LJ 452 said:While I understand you didn't have a good experience with the Curve's I will say I DO believe in great customer service, regardless of the product. Want to see the difference first hand, order a set of Bergstroms, wait the year that it takes to get them and let me know how that goes, make several calls, with either no answer or "I waiting for carbide", rally. Bergstroms are a nice product but what good does it do you if you can't get it or get a hold of the manufacture to get it.
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09NytroRTX
Expert
I'm loving my Curve ski's this yr.!
You love to start chit wherever you can, don't you? Some of us have tried these skis with great results, without the fairy dust leading edge. You should try an adult approach to a conversation some time.
BETHEVIPER said:You must be wrong, the magic ski takes the single carbide, then sprinkles fairy dust on it. This makes it magically float over the trail, never to dart again.
Later, a couple years later, the fairy dust wore off and magically, there was a new 100$ item, that you bought with your carbides that replaced the fairy dust that used to make the skis not dart.
One thing is for sure, if you make a product that does what is sold to do, there is never any need for customer service of any kind. Selling a product that doesn't do what it said it could sure gives lots of opportunity for good customer service.
Skepticism is a virtue
Daranello
Suspended
Scott got the worst customer service in the buisness. I waited 4 months for carbides from him then the Center cabide fell out.
Plus I don't like doing buisness with someone that talks every bodies stuff down.
Plus I don't like doing buisness with someone that talks every bodies stuff down.
ecopter
TY 4 Stroke Guru
Daranello said:Scott got the worst customer service in the buisness. I waited 4 months for carbides from him then the Center cabide fell out.
Plus I don't like doing buisness with someone that talks every bodies stuff down.
There couldn't be a more true statement about Bergstrom. His website is filled with venom about every other product, while his is perfect. Customers intrepret his kindness with good service. Personally, I don't think hanging on the phone with him for an hour translates into good customer service. His product may work well, but his ridicule about all other competitors probably does more harm to him than good. At least it does for me. I'll never buy another carbide from him.
jf
KevinS
Expert
Daranello said:Scott got the worst customer service in the buisness. I waited 4 months for carbides from him then the Center cabide fell out.
Plus I don't like doing buisness with someone that talks every bodies stuff down.
x2. I waited almost a year for a new set of Triple points when mine started to lose chunks after only a couple of rides.
You have to take all that BS on his website with a grain of salt. What I get from his site is if it isn't something that he has come up with it is a total POS.
porkchop
TY 4 Stroke Master
Considering Nick is my Cousin & I got no problems with the skis, I find it hard to believe that you just didn't call them up and ask what carbides would fit their skis.....
Duh, where's that easy button again???
** Stud Boy/ shaper are pretty common to get most anywhere, fit nice and have good handling with my Phazer (properly set up).
Duh, where's that easy button again???
** Stud Boy/ shaper are pretty common to get most anywhere, fit nice and have good handling with my Phazer (properly set up).
studdog
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
I've been doing business with Curve and scott Bergstrom for many years. They are both have provided me with excellent service and products. Both stand behind their products 100%. george
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