ROCKERDAN said:BOUNTYHUNTER said:...I use a 3/4 socket that I've machined down to fit inside the bearing so it can only push down onto the steel part of the bearing for both pushing it out and pressing it back in.
i like to use a larger socket when installing bearings,that contact the OUTER RACE only.
Dan
I use to do that Dan but I didn't like the fact the socket could move and damage the seal, as well the inner race way is stronger because it's smaller and thicker and sends less shock waves through the bearing than from the outter race way which is thinner and larger. Unless you are Pressing them in and out which then makes Absolutely No Difference then
canadianhunter
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ROCKERDAN is correct, drive only on the outside race. On my wheels I could remove the seal by leaving the bearing in place and only removing the snap ring.
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BOUNTYHUNTER said:ROCKERDAN said:BOUNTYHUNTER said:...I use a 3/4 socket that I've machined down to fit inside the bearing so it can only push down onto the steel part of the bearing for both pushing it out and pressing it back in.
i like to use a larger socket when installing bearings,that contact the OUTER RACE only.
Dan
I use to do that Dan but I didn't like the fact the socket could move and damage the seal, as well the inner race way is stronger because it's smaller and thicker and sends less shock waves through the bearing than from the outter race way which is thinner and larger. Unless you are Pressing them in and out which then makes Absolutely No Difference then
you are "SIDE LOADING" the BALL BEARINGS when you use the inner race for pressing in or out.
i always use outer race so it never can hurt the balls by sideloading them.
Dan
ROCKERDAN said:BOUNTYHUNTER said:ROCKERDAN said:BOUNTYHUNTER said:...I use a 3/4 socket that I've machined down to fit inside the bearing so it can only push down onto the steel part of the bearing for both pushing it out and pressing it back in.
i like to use a larger socket when installing bearings,that contact the OUTER RACE only.
Dan
I use to do that Dan but I didn't like the fact the socket could move and damage the seal, as well the inner race way is stronger because it's smaller and thicker and sends less shock waves through the bearing than from the outter race way which is thinner and larger. Unless you are Pressing them in and out which then makes Absolutely No Difference then
you are "SIDE LOADING" the BALL BEARINGS when you use the inner race for pressing in or out.
i always use outer race so it never can hurt the balls by sideloading them.
Dan
Yes you are correct Dan....But... Being that these are Chrome Steel Ball Brg's, Radial Deep Grove and only a Single Row Brg. Highly unlikely that will be an issue. I would be more concerned if they were a Double Row Self Aligning Brg or a Roller Brg.
I like that you pointed that out as even the Tech Schools rap them out with a socket and a hammer on the inner race way as do most sled shops, of course todays brg's are far better than they used to be but that's another debate.
BTW....I'm not saying the way I do it is the best or anything, just the way I do it as your way......But I do love a good debate Dan
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I flip the socket over so the flat part contacts both the inner and outer races and I still end up hitting my thumb.BOUNTYHUNTER said:ROCKERDAN said:i like to use a larger socket when installing bearings,that contact the OUTER RACE only.
Dan
I use to do that Dan but I didn't like the fact the socket could move and damage the seal, as well the inner race way is stronger because it's smaller and thicker and sends less shock waves through the bearing than from the outter race way which is thinner and larger. Unless you are Pressing them in and out which then makes Absolutely No Difference then
I like watching you guys having a good debate, it's fun.
SledderSteve said:I still end up hitting my thumb.
You Always make me Laugh
I like watching you guys having a good debate, it's fun.
Debates like this are very good, as many times I pick up something I was unaware of......Love To Learn Stuff, and Dan is one of our brightest guys when it comes to Technical things
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SledderSteve said:I flip the socket over so the flat part contacts both the inner and outer races and I still end up hitting my thumb.BOUNTYHUNTER said:ROCKERDAN said:i like to use a larger socket when installing bearings,that contact the OUTER RACE only.
Dan
I use to do that Dan but I didn't like the fact the socket could move and damage the seal, as well the inner race way is stronger because it's smaller and thicker and sends less shock waves through the bearing than from the outter race way which is thinner and larger. Unless you are Pressing them in and out which then makes Absolutely No Difference then
I like watching you guys having a good debate, it's fun.
thats what I do and thought...geez Im doing it wrong compared to both these guys...
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yeah flipping socket over so you are hitting it with the flat side is always best,i do this too.
what i do is put a 3" extension into the socket backwards,so it sticks out the opposite side of socket,and then hit the extension with the hammer. keeps the pressure on outer race so not to hurt the balls/race.
i must admit that 99% of the time on idlers,i just replace the bearings since they are so cheap when you buy a stick,so removing them they get whacked out since they are going into trash can....then use my method on install of new one.
did you guys see my tool i made for installing a jackshaft bearing? its a piece of galv pipe coupler with a threaded plug,home depot under 4 bucks. when i do the jackshaft bearing i stick it in my freezer for 20 mins before install. i also have a longer version for installing this bearing with the jackshaft INPLACE.(dont have to remove the chaincase backside then)
Dan
what i do is put a 3" extension into the socket backwards,so it sticks out the opposite side of socket,and then hit the extension with the hammer. keeps the pressure on outer race so not to hurt the balls/race.
i must admit that 99% of the time on idlers,i just replace the bearings since they are so cheap when you buy a stick,so removing them they get whacked out since they are going into trash can....then use my method on install of new one.
did you guys see my tool i made for installing a jackshaft bearing? its a piece of galv pipe coupler with a threaded plug,home depot under 4 bucks. when i do the jackshaft bearing i stick it in my freezer for 20 mins before install. i also have a longer version for installing this bearing with the jackshaft INPLACE.(dont have to remove the chaincase backside then)
Dan
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wish i had seen this thread b4....I lost a rear wheel sometime on the ride yesterday! now i have the fun of removing everything to change it, of course it was the right side wheel. The only thing left is the inner race
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ROCKERDAN said:yeah flipping socket over so you are hitting it with the flat side is always best,i do this too.
what i do is put a 3" extension into the socket backwards,so it sticks out the opposite side of socket,and then hit the extension with the hammer. keeps the pressure on outer race so not to hurt the balls/race.
i must admit that 99% of the time on idlers,i just replace the bearings since they are so cheap when you buy a stick,so removing them they get whacked out since they are going into trash can....then use my method on install of new one.
did you guys see my tool i made for installing a jackshaft bearing? its a piece of galv pipe coupler with a threaded plug,home depot under 4 bucks. when i do the jackshaft bearing i stick it in my freezer for 20 mins before install. i also have a longer version for installing this bearing with the jackshaft INPLACE.(dont have to remove the chaincase backside then)
Dan
NICE! next time around this is the ticket!
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BOUNTYHUNTER said:I think somebody might have been in my tool box.... standard 1/2 couplings & full couplings with Drain plugs and different size extensions is what I use as well
whats that saying?...."GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE"
lol
Dan
ROCKERDAN said:BOUNTYHUNTER said:I think somebody might have been in my tool box.... standard 1/2 couplings & full couplings with Drain plugs and different size extensions is what I use as well
whats that saying?...."GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE"
lol
Dan
...ABSOLUTELY ... I just wanted U 2 Say It Dan
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okay you two GET A ROOM ALREADY
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